Someone is in deep sh!t. HOW is this allowed to happen?
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$20 says itâs not an accident.
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I was wondering how a cargo ship could get anywhere near a U.S. Carrier. But the story says the carrier was preparing to transit the Suez Canal. With how busy the canal is it is a little more understandable how the ships might get close.
Given the lack of seamanship displayed lately by cargo ship crews and even a few cases with Navy crews an accident is not out of the question. But given the constricted area it would be an ideal location for an intentional act as well.
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Donât they have Battle Ships and Air Crafts escorting them?
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Last U.S. battleship was decommissioned over 30 years ago.
Not sure how a carrier is protected when going through a funnel.
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Just guessing, but I would assume they put everything in the air they possible can.
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Look at the air collision in DC. With all that was going on, transmissions, radar, visual, it still turned into a tragic FUBAR. Nothing should surprise anyone anymore.
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Exactly right, the channel gets very narrow. I went through there not long after 9/11 on an ammo supply ship loaded with bombs and 90 million gallons of jet fuel for unreps. On the previous deployment, some of Moâs disciples were caught planning to fire at us from the bank with RPGâs.
And some people whine that they have a stressful job.
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Hereâs the thing.
She (The Carrier) was âOff the coast of Egyptâ Not in the Canal yet.
Open Water. (According to the article) IF this were in the Canal the Battle Group spreads out and goes single file (usually). TO AVOID COLLISIONS! The Air Groups are either sent inland or stay on the ship. You need Speed (and turning into the wind to launch and recover Air).
SOMEBODY OBVIOUSLY SCREWED UP! on the Truman. Simple.
You can blame incompetentâs in the Cargo vessel sure but the Bridge look outs/Sonar all dropped the ball!. If someoneâs making a bee-line towards you Avoidance is put into action MILES out. Ships just Canât STOP on a dime! This is a Nuke-Powered Warship! Any dikinâ around her you take ACTION. Commâs would be lit up miles before they got too close! âDanger Danger Will Robinson!â This massive Tanker (whatever) didnât just miss the green arrow and make a left turn in the intersection it takes time to maneuver things that huge.
The Captain will take the fall ultimately. Itâs His/Her Responsibility
This was intentional (maybe another broken rudder that took out that Bridge last year huh?) âŠwhat? could happen?
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Itâs unclear who owns and manages the ship.
The merchant vessel previously collided with M/V Common Spirit in August 2016 in the Bangladesh port city of Chittagong, according to the ship tracking site Vessel Tracker.
The last known collision between a carrier and a merchant ship was on July 22, 2004, when the former USS John F. Kennedy (CV-67) collided with a small dhow in the Persian Gulf during night helicopter operations. The commander of the carrier was relieved after an initial investigation.
Something fishy this way comes 'ey?
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Besiktas-M is a 2003-built Handymax, and is managed by Synergy and owned by a holding company in the Marshall Islands.
Besiktas-M has accumulated 55 deficiencies in three years, with multiple issues found during nine out of her last 10 port state control inspections. Her most recent inspection was in Aqaba last week. Upon boarding, Jordanian PSC officials found problems with her fire pump and with her voyage data recorder, both useful in the event of a collision. A previous inspection in Ravenna last year found deficiencies with abandon-ship drills, the shipâs stability booklet, lifebuoys, MARPOL records and the shipâs muster list.
The number of deficiencies on the bulker is not unusual for a FOC registered ship
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The whole merchant global shipping business is so murky itâs scary. LLCs registered in foreign countries owned by corporations registered in other countries often own the ships, while theyâre flagged in the worldâs backwater countries like Liberia, so theyâre basically under no oneâs oversight, running crew from all over the world with God-knows-what backgrounds. Anyone from anywhere could have been on that merchant ship with bad intentions.
Even the âdomesticâ cruise industry is bad. I had a retired Coast Guardsman at the Port of Tampa telling me about the cruise business once. So-called âAmericanâ companies like Carnival never register their ships in the US, usually itâs Panama, so they have much more immunity from US laws. They work very hard to have their ships in and out of port in under 3 hours so they can avoid Coast Guard inspections. Still, theyâre not as bad as the cargo ships at all. Look at that one that took out the Key Bridge, and the international paper trail of ownership and (non)responsibility.
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THATâS the one I referenced above just didnât bother looking up the particularâs.
I was on the Carnival Cruise lines "Inspirationâ (anything but) I not only did I get Pneumonia (double, I donât do ANYTHING half measure 
) Sis got the FLU! first night out we hit a storm and dishes and Servers (people servers ) were flying around the dining hall (galley) I thought it was cool rocking and rolling on the high seas but when a dude came sailing by me (real close) smiling I knew it was time to get in my Stateroom and buckle down the hatches. Most boring thing we ever did. If you donât drink thereâs almost nothing to do. A two hole pitch n put was on top of a roof !
I was so bored I salied a few balls into the Ocean for giggles (I had my sister in stiches).
Never again. Boring holes in the ocean (Catalina was OK, Ensenada was duckinâ dangerous!
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Cattle cars if you ask me, but weâve been on several because wifey likes them. I wised up and told her to go with her girlfriends for her next one, which is in June. In lieu, I WILL be buying a firearm and fitting it out!
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I wonder how many years that will take to repair?
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The carrier was moved to the US Naval Support base in Suda Bay Greece for repairs. No time estimate given.
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Navy fires aircraft carrier captain after cargo ship collision
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/navy-fires-aircraft-carrier-captain-after-cargo-ship-collision/ar-AA1ztcWL?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=2f26edb7223a4a4d884bec5853029412&ei=23
Capt. Dave Snowden, who took command of the nuclear-powered USS Harry S. Truman in December 2023, was relieved of command Thursday, according to a Navy release. Rear Adm. Sean Bailey, Snowdenâs commander, removed him due to a âloss of confidence in [Snowdenâs] ability to command ⊠after [the] Truman was involved in a collision.â
Whoopsie!, We called it as we saw (it coming),
Now the new proprietor of the Chucky Cheese in Shreveport ,Gulf of America
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I never served.
I have no idea if his firing was par for his command, and if he was given a fair shake.
Or, standardâs too high he had it coming.
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