You plead guilty…… you’re admitting fault to the situation. They’re not here to get you to plea, they’re here to help support you fully legally defend yourself and clear your name when you’re not in the wrong.
Also I don’t think it puts a good name in the USCCA when headlines read
“USCCA DEFENDS MURDERER AND HELPS THEM PLEA OFF THEIR CASE”
And then the details in the article states how USCCA should be disbanded, because USCCA is no longer representing legal responsibly armed Americans, they’re representing criminals and their reckless acts and helping them get off on there charges.
Now the USCCA is going to be in more hot water and a push for more states to outlaw services of USCCA like Washington State and New Jersey, and further pushes the narrative that this isn’t self defense insurance this is murder insurance.
I saw one tuber complaining that they gave him a script to read… the comment I left was hey DA, I’m pretty damn sure every company would require you stick to the script so the business wouldn’t get sued for something you promised or such.
I am an attorney and this is not as simple as it seems. When all things are black and white, answers are simple. Very few things are purely black and white and there are more than 50 shades of gray.
Due process. From what I read USCCA attorneys will do their very best to overlook evidence, point out things that the prosecutor and police missed, and get the case dismissed before it even goes to trial.
There is no such thing as plead guilty to get it over with ! Bruh! If it was rape would you? Murder would you ? I can’t…… you never plea to something you haven’t done. I don’t know. Some of you are not doing the right thing. Educate each other they have resources here are they really members. First my gun is concealed and not shown until it’s used. Second every bullet in my guns has a lawsuit attached to it I hate to think about it we are not police , we don’t get the benefit of the doubt or qualified immunity we get a trip to jail they sort some things out and then you post bond ideally and await trial in this course of action I never mentioned we plea to a lesser charge of what manslaughter, in protecting ones self know enough to not say a word
Ron White- " The cop told me I had the right to remain silent but I didn’t have the ability." When the cop advises you of that part of Miranda, that’s the last time he’s your friend except for the part that says “anything you say CAN and WILL be used against you in a court of law!” Be nice, but SHUT UP!! The cop’s job is to gather information about the incident. That’s all. You can’t win your case talking to the cop but you can lose it for sure. Let the attorney do it for you when the correct time comes.
Excellent point, Enzo_T. The process has been studied and re-studied to bring about the correct results. This organization is here not just to make a profit, but to bring about a result that is advantageous to the member. This needs to be understood and internalized.
There are a lot of unknowns in this. I worked many civil insurance defense cases where the insurer defended under a “reservation of rights” where there were questions as to whether coverage existed. Most of these cases were resolved without a final resolution of the coverage question or with a favorable result for the insured.
But the realities of litigating a case are not simple. For instance, say you go in to a place that prohibits firearms and you are involved in a self defense incident. Would you be willing to plead to a minor criminal trespass charge to avoid the murder or attempted murder charge? What I do not know is how the insurer will look at such a plea Yes, it is a guilty plea but is not related to the actual self defense claim. There is also the reality of the costs/expenses of litigation. Most insurers I have worked with want to minimize the costs/expenses incurred. If faced with the question of whether proceeding to trial on a major felony charge or allowing the insured to plead to a violation or misdemeanor, at a fraction of the cost, I would be inclined to believe the insurer would lean toward the latter. And the plea to criminal trespass significantly hinders the civil claim for the monetary damages for bodily injury or wrongful death.
Insurance companies are in the business to make money. The way they make money is by saving money.
The other thing to remember is that litigation is never certain and juries are rather fickle. I do not know any attorneys who have not lost cases they should have won and won cases they should have lost. And, what is considered a win is not simple either. My first jury trial was a civil trial where a man was making a claim against the insurer I represented for underinsured motorist coverage in 2 separate car wrecks. My client took the position that he had been fully compensated by the insurers protecting the at fault drivers. The plaintiff was seeking the policy limits on both cases.
In the end, the jury returned a verdict for the Plaintiff and against my client. For us it was a win. We had offered a couple thousand dollars to resolve the case and made an “offer of judgment.” This means if the plaintiff prevails but gets less than the amount of the offer of judgment, the plaintiff must pay the defendant certain costs and expenses.
The jury returned a verdict for the Plaintiff but the amount ended up being under $100 so, while plaintiff won, he ended up owing the insurance company money.
So, let me get this straight, if I use my firearm to defend my life or prevent serious bodily injury and a zealous anti-gun DA convinces a woke jury that I committed a crime, then USCCA will drop me like a hot rock and sue me for repayment of funds they spent before I even get my appeal heard?
