We will see how this story develops. So far, one lesson is not to open the door for police officer holding a gun.
It does raise a really good question:
I can have a loaded gun inside of my residence. I can have that gun in my hand inside of my house. I donât âhaveâ to answer the door for anyone. SO, if the Police knock, then bust the door down, see me with a gun in my hand, I havenât broken any laws. Can they legally shoot me because they are afraid?
No, but they will shoot you because they are afraid and it happens all the time. Weâve had other discussions on here about people being wrongly shot for simply holding a gun down low at their sides, including one guy who was shot through the window of his home. Again, that was a cop pounding on the wrong door.
I totally understand the airman having a gun. I know the sheriffâs office in this case keeps pointing to the fact that the deputy did announce he was sheriff, but thereâs nothing from stopping a criminal doing the same thing. If I donât expect the cops, and I hear a loud banging on my door with someone yelling sheriff, Iâm not going to believe it without verification.
This was a bad shooting from what Iâve seen released to the news, and I feel so sorry for that airmanâs family. I always remind my wife, If you need to check out something like a knock on the door, or even sounds outside, have your gun, but have it out of sight at all times. You could get shot right through the window.
Rule # 1 NEVER OPEN THE DOOR
Rule #2 If in doubt refer to rule # 1
Uniforms, I.D.âs, blood dripping from your eyes, flames shooting from your ears, my door never opens. Unless Iâm going to the grocery, doctors or mail. If thereâs anything in front of that door that I didnât specifically invite, it stays closed and locked! No fâs andâs or bullets.
That was a bad shoot!
Iâll have to add one more thing, he didnât shoot because he was black, he shot because he saw the gun. Which was in a downward position and not a threat. Iâm sure upon opening the door had the officer shouted with an order to drop the gun, all would have been fine.
Yes, I agree that could be any one of us. But we donât open doors!
For security reasons I wonât disclose my protocols!
I feel really bad for this family. If this was not 2024 and the country wasnât as stupid as it is, this would not be the tragedy we saw on that video. This is more blood on Bidens hands.
The bonehead in the White House is there to âinsure domestic Tranquilityâ. Instead heâs created more violence in his term than any president in history!
I would add a 5th rule to firearms handling
Have to admit the alleged suspect did follow all four laws.
#5 See rule # 1 NEVER OPEN THE DOOR
In addition SENIOR AIRMEN Roger Fortson should never be associated with the names on the list in that article, just a personal observation!
He stood way above the likes of a Trayvon Martin, Micheal Brown and who is the Floyd guy! My bad that was the counterfeit carrying drug addict.
I think this innocent guy was SWATTED
It looked like the Deputy Sherrif was standing out of view from the peep hole. He did announce once but who knows if anyone inside heard exactly what he said.
Lesdon learned NEVER ANSWER THE DOOR!
Unless I am expecting someone who I have text me when they arrive, I do not answer my door. If itâs someone I know, they will text & ask me where I am. I recently installed a ring doorbell so it pretty clear if itâs someone I know or not
I can understand not standing in front of the door [shot can go threw the door] but the deputy was ââover zealousââ in his actions
BTW donât try kicking my door down , you will just break your ankle
@MICHAEL_LEE1
I donât pay much attention to cake, unless itâs chocolate and sitting in front of me! So, itâs either birthday or anniversary.
Wish you both.
Sorta like shooting, if I think Iâm going miss the first shot, I immediately follow up with the second!
I have a 50/50 chance here, HAPPY ANNIVERSARY
Happy Anniversary good sir!
If itâs a slice of cake, itâs the anniversary. Full cake is the birthday. Just Army helping the Navy. Quite a switch I know. Lol
From a rotor head to a bubble head.
If itâs the sheriff pounding at unusual hours, call 911 and have them confirm itâs the sheriff via the radio. Otherwise give a warning yourself that youâre armed and donât be directly behind or inline with the door. Seek cover and concealment.
Man I wish my wife would let me change out the 1910 era front door that is half glass. There is so much I have to do now to just bring the house up to modern standards in every other way.
Why would the police knock your door down?
There is a huge chasm between opening your door with a gun in your hand (everybody please stop doing that) and having police knock your door down
People need to stop doing that
Do not open the door with a gun in your hand
We have also seen examples of homeowners literally raising the gun up towards police after opening the doorâŠyou should get shot for that.
Donât do that.
Massood has most likely forgotten more about firearms and self defense than I will ever know. With that said I donât always agree with what he teaches. If you find value in what he says you could find a lot worse instruction.
âpolice knock your door downâ it was a metaphor my friend a metaphor.
That is the part I was asking about.
The answer to your question of âcan they legally shoot meâ would, in my non lawyer opinion, seem to rest on the answer to the question âwhy did they bust your door down?â
The police breaking into your home is a rather different scenario than answering the door by opening it with a gun in your hand.
Or shooting you through the window when they look in and see you with a firearm? Or am I being as picky as you in the dissection of a rather broad subject?
Lots of times I believe Nathan just likes to push peoples buttons. I mostly ignore him but now and again I forget but soon remember why.
Communication is key here. Vocal and visual. YES, you have a right to have a gun in your house and to be carrying it. Answering a door with a gun tells me you should not answer the door in the first place. Have you seen the video with the thugs saying that they were the police? Then having the gun visible to the person outside the door and having it at the ready,. not good either! Have it on you and have it ready but do not let them see it.
- Know who is at your door before answering it.
- If you do not know them personally, do not open your door.