I would argue that our constitutional rights have been under steady attack at least since 9/11/2001. The patriot act allowed for the illegal surveillance of all of us. Established a 100 mile buffer around our entire boarder where we can be stopped and searched for no reason etc. Then add no knock warrants for minor possible offenses, stop and frisk, civil asset forfeiture by law enforcement without any due process, the cancel culture shutting down free speech through online mob rule, the list goes on and on. We are living in “1984”. I personally feel that the storming of the Capital was repugnant. I don’t believe in the use of violence to intimidate people no matter how just the cause. Most of the people in that chamber are corrupt beyond repair but in this case they were following the process mandated by the Constitution for the peaceful transfer of power which is the cornerstone of democracy. If the mob’s goal was to restore freedom and fairness, they have almost certainly failed. Adopting Antifa tactics will only succeed in loosing the support of the masses and increasing the likelihood of the USA becoming a completely fascist state. Authoritarians love a good crises and we are giving them one.
I wasn’t going to reply any more in this “forum” but I must commend you for your comments. I agree with you on some points and disagree on others. I won’t go into details as you have thankfully posted your point in a constructive manner no matter what I think or believe. I would constructively challenge you to at least ponder what you could do to change the wrongs you have posted. I agree about the Patriot Act being far too overreaching. But the surveillance has been occurring way before 911. The internet was designed for covert surveillance. Remember that it was created during the Cold War with the Soviet Union. Military and educational institutions wanted a way of sharing information. And it was designed so that packets could be intercepted and analyzed. So, you see, big brother has been watching for a long time. But 911 scared the hell out of the government and they did what they could only do at the time, rationalize your rights to take them away in the name of security. I would pose that the Patriot Act really did little but deny people their rights under law.
I’ve said enough and although I really enjoy a good conversation discussing the topic rationally I must go. But I will look back and see what others have commented on.
And thank you for being a patriot. 
This has been my biggest concern. I don’t encourage anyone to storm the Capitol, but this will be used to repress opposition. There is one, unchecked party in control, and that always makes me nervous.
If this follows history, they’ll use this to villianize any opposition, which will only fuel opposition. I hope calmer heads prevail, but history is full of examples that spin out of control. And the powers that be are not using calm rhetoric.
This was fun to wake up to…
You have a very interesting way of defining that word. 
This seems like it is not even the beginning yet. I strongly disagree with the riot at the Capitol Hill. It should have not gotten to that point but here we are. Times are indeed very scary now, with the threat to our 2A rights as well as other rights. It truly is sad this country elected (or stole the election) these “terrorist like” leaders.
If only people would take the time to understand guns, then maybe many minds will change.
Here’s another turd on the table…
Not saying that it’s true, or false, but that you should ask your self who would benefit from the story being told and what the desired end state is for them.
Hey @Michael779 , you dont need to go away. Just stop saying things like the quote above and then going ‘dooooh, I didn’t break any rules’ if you actually intend to communicate and hold a dialog.
That would be Biden/Harris.
And that matters how? You espouse ignorance and bigotry. If you are a member, you are a disgrace to all firearm owners with the attitude you are projecting here. It is amazing you want a government that has made it quite clear you are, as a firearm owner, a persona non grata.
Sounds like a threat. You had better hope you do not have a red flag law in your state.
I see the same things coming up over and over in our forums and others. One big group wants to drive toward the constitution and its related documents. The other group want to alter improve (in their eyes, not a criticism). Both groups think that they are right. They are…opposed.
Combine that with some nameless folks on each side who “won’t give and inch!” and you get what we have. Zero compromise=zero movement/progress. We could have that arguement over and over but what’s the point?
An old friend told me one of my favorite jokes many years ago.
If you put a priest and a rabbi in a room, regardless of how long you leave them in there, at no point will either stand up and yell, “I convert!”
Me? I think that if we could get people to spell and use words properly…we’d have a big win. (including me…) And don’t get me going on using the “like” button instead of posting ANOTHER 2"-4" “I agree” in a forum format. I think that someone better lay down the law. lol
This was a bad look for conservatives. And I think everything they were hoping to accomplish got thrown out the window. Most (all?) of those who were going to object changed their vote. They have given the incoming administration ample ammunition (pun intended) to push for more harassment of conservatives.
Isn’t that the same on any topic? Certainly true for firearms. Absolutely true for motorcycles. Much muddier for politicians, as what they “believe” in changes minute to minute, like the new culture we’re building. How is anyone expected to know what right/good are when the rules are being made up all of the time.
Pretty much summarizes the post, as well as the content of the character of a poster.
There is a small percentage of people on the right and left that seem to think violence is the solution. That is why large gatherings can be so dangerous. Sometimes it only takes one person to jump of the cliff in order to get the rest to follow before they realize what they are doing. Instead of a few thousand angry protesters in DC, Portland, etc. I would rather see 10s of millions writing their representatives and telling them enough is enough. Then we all need to stop voting for people who keep telling us what we want to here and start voting for people who are willing to tell us what we all need to work on together to get out of this mess.
A very good start, to be sure.
We have been, and it has not been working.
I can speak only for myself. I don’t think that bloodshed gets us to an answer. I also think that it would put our country in a weakened position for outsiders to take advantage of. We’ve had enough of that already, no?
The bug, from what I hear from folks online and freinds, is that nothing else seems to be working. Folks have been at it for years. Trying to get us back to some kind of normalcy, and we just keep moving away from that. These people, and I suspect many others, think that blood is the only thing that will make a difference. That is sad and I don’t think that is a reasonable path. That so many think so is troubling to say the least.
I was surprised that they hauled everyone off of the floor yesterday instead of leaving them there to talk with their fellow citizens. I would have loved to hear Nancy answer honest questions on live TV.
I am not sure if you are being serious, or if you just have not been watching any news for the past year or so? Literally everything in this paragraph is false.
Lockdowns in some states have literally banned gatherings (unless you are rioting for the correct cause), closed churches (several cases went to the supreme court with mixed success), you are only secure in your home until the mob arrives or LEO comes with a no-knock warrant, we havent been free from unreasonable searches since the Patriot Act or in any city/state with “stop & frisk” policies, and we can all speak our minds as long as it’s approved because otherwise cancel-culture is going to get you (altho to be fair that isn’t gubment, thats a [loud] portion of society).
If any of those 15 guns you claim are semi-autos, you better believe they are “suggesting new limitations” for you. Have a look at Biden’s Gun Control plan (on his own website, numerous interviews, and he’s promised to make Beto O’Rourke the head of his gun control), the DNC website, and of course the folks leading the charge which is Bloomberg funded groups like Everytown, Giffords, Mom’s Demand, etc. If you pay attention in the Legal category you will see numerous bills filed over the past few years, some defeated and some not, including an ever expanding definition of “assault weapons” to include semi-autos that are capable of holding more than 10rnds. And in the case of tube-fed like shotguns and lever actions the tube with more than 7rnds is considered an “assault weapon”.