Granted it’s tactically foolish but having grown up on westerns I can’t ignore the appeal!
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Ben Franklin was over 200 years ago. Now it is a responsibly armed society is a polite and safe society.
Jesus was over 2000 years ago when people knew the difference between killing and murder. 
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That’s my reason for wishing open carry were legal everywhere - so it wouldn’t matter if a concealed weapon printed or peeked.
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In the minds of some, printing becomes confused with brandishing, and these two acts are entirely different. Brandishing refers to the act of intentionally displaying the weapon to elicit a response from someone.
And surprisingly, a lot of states don’t have laws that cover brandishing.
Printing, does not constitute brandishing a weapon.
printing is not illegal in most jurisdictions.
One common misconception is that any visible outline of a firearm automatically indicates illegal or irresponsible behavior.
Since printing is not a technical legal definition, it raises the important question of what exactly qualifies as “concealed”. Laws vary from state to state, but in most places, as long as you’re making a legitimate effort to keep the gun concealed from the average untrained eye, you shouldn’t have to worry about printing. There’s a lot of overblown misinformation out there on this issue,
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I think that brandishing is using a gun for unscrupulous reasons.
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Brandishing a weapon is the act of displaying a firearm or other dangerous object to intimidate, threaten, or cause fear in another person. It does not require pointing the weapon at someone; simply showing it in a hostile or aggressive manner can be enough to constitute a criminal offense.
The crime of brandishing a weapon is defined by two main components: the physical action of displaying the weapon and the intent behind that action. For a charge to be successful, a prosecutor must prove both of these elements beyond a reasonable doubt. The law distinguishes between merely possessing a weapon and actively using its presence to menace or frighten someone else.
The physical act requires drawing, exhibiting, or otherwise making the weapon’s presence known in a “rude, angry, or threatening manner” or used during a fight or quarrel. This could mean pulling a handgun from a waistband during an argument or waving a baseball bat aggressively at a neighbor. Pulling up a shirt to reveal a holstered pistol during a heated dispute could also be considered brandishing, as the context implies a threat.
IF your state has such a law.
Printing is not brandishing.
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Agreed.
Printing could be accidental.
Brandishing is intentional.
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Unless you brandish inside your home, in California, then you’re a felon. 
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I never thought of mine as a “six shooter”, but that its capacity, so I guess so.
I personally might not ever open carry, but I support laws which allow it. A part of me wonders if it helps normalize them.
But recently - I heard a story which made me wonder, for those who do open carry, why do they choose to do it?
One reason I’m guessing is easier access, faster draw perhaps. Which other reasons?
The story goes, a man was filming the outside of a famous church which was under renovation. Then the owner of the church approached the man/filmer and said, “Hey, this is private property, no trespassing”. The owner happened to be open carrying, I think on his hip.
If and when we open carry, do we ever make it a point to ensure another person can see our said strong side? Not as intimidation, not brandishing, but for a lack of a better word, as display, to deter and warn off potential attackers?
Do we use it that way, is that kind of a way of legally brandishing?
I’m not saying it’'s wrong, but wondered about our thoughts and behaviors around it. As in this story, the man filming was very much aware of the open carrying, left the scene and complied. I suggested he make friends with the church owner, maybe bring him food or offer to help do some repairs.
What say you?
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To me, one of the biggest drawbacks of open carry is the opportunity for anti-gunners to know you’re carrying, and flat lie to get you in trouble. They can say you threatened them with a gun, and, sure enough, you DO have a gun. Brother @BruceE ran into a world of crap when some liberal trucker out of CA lied about him, if I remember the story right.
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Is open carry brandishing?
Brandishing is generally understood to involve drawing or aiming a firearm at a person to intimidate them or threaten them with violence. Montana does not have a brandishing statute.
Sometimes I’ll open carry when camping, it keeps all of the morons at bay
(As I didn’t go camping to make new friends, I went camping to get away from people)
It appears some need to look up their state laws on brandishing
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Ps If I just ran off somebody for trespassing and they come back with a plate of cookies and want to help me clean the place up. I’m politely telling them to go away.
I’m not accepting food from someone. I just ran off my property or their help.
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I don’t open carry, but I sure like the fact that I have the option in my home state.
On open carry versus concealed carry, I think most people don’t notice either way. Open carry is not something we see frequently. But I would say it’s “normal.” That is, when we see it happen it looks and feels like a very normal thing. No one is acting afraid. No one is staring at the gun. No one really seems to notice.
I was in the drivers license office the other day. State owned facility. No guns allowed sign on the door. But not illegal in our state. Some dude was there with his family. Had the beer gut going on. And was wearing a spandex like t shirt. (As an aside, Why?!) the full outline of his gun was clearly visible in the small of his back. He bent over to sit down and lights and sirens may as well have been going off. I could almost read the brand of the gun jt was so obvious. (Maybe a tad bit of hyperbole but not much.) The armed guard at the door (to my knowledge) never seemed to notice.
The counter argument to that statement is that 1) I noticed so someone obviously did, and 2) how sure am I that others didnt notice? 
I personally think it’s great when other people open carry. 
And I see both sides and think that both sides have valid points of view.
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I sure like the fact that you have the freedom to choose in your home state.
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Agree 100%
In PA it is completely legal to open carry without a permit.
However, you need a concealed carry permit to open or conceal carry in a vehicle. So open carry without a permit only works if you stay out of vehicles.
Of course, my PA permit is $20 for five years and renews quickly with no training requirement.
Maryland on the other hand… The he most recent law that was passed locked down a lot of things, but carved out an exception for temporary unintended visibility of the gun which previously got your permit revoked. And the law in MD is now being fought out in the courts. But I digress.
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If you created a topic, you could go back and fix any mistakes by touching your cursor to the title and the pencil will pop up alongside, click on that and it will allow you to make any corrections.
Just friendly help and general information. 
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That’s how Colorado is.
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The same in New Mexico. Open means “Open”. conceal means “Conceal”. There’s no half and half. Hell, criminals DON’T open carry, BUT CONCEAL VERY WELL!!!
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Joseph 488. Heres ya a Root Beer 
Sir for i carry openly and concealed. And I Don’t have any problems . Texas . Here’s a Root Beer for everyone who exercises their second amendment.. with out Fear. Mean it. Love Bobby Jean and Debbie ann twofeathers .
Stay Sharp . Ps be careful who ya Lie on. lol 
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Two days and two nights in Texas and didn’t see a single guy open carrying 
except LE
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