95% of Republican voters, and 70% of Democrat voters support voter ID laws. Politicians however, are taxing us without representing us.
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It is beyond comical how the elected democrats are attempting to spin this.
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If it were not so heinous.
EVERY dem, plus Thomas Massie (RINO) voted against it in the house, but it passed. Now goes to the Senate.
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Nope, not going to have it. I proved my citizenship when I registered to vote. If they are going to require me to have ID to exercise one right, how long till I will need ID to exercise my other rights? Furthermore I vote by mail so requiring an ID is just a way to try and stop vote by mail states from participating in elections.
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Not elections, FRAUD.
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It is not to prove citizenship, but that the person registered is the person voting. We have voter ID in Virginia, everyone shows some type of photo government ID. We have had no issues with disenfranchisement due to lack of ID. The dems claim that those on government assistance don’t have ID. They do know that those on government assistance need ID to get those benefits, so who are they supposedly protecting? In Virginia, it is the massive fraud utilized by mail-in/absentee ballots. The Republicans have tried to fix that, but this legislative session the dems are ripping that wide open, and wanting to gerrymander the districts against the State Constitution that creates a bi-partisan committee to create districts. Their version will create 10 Democrat-controlled districts out of the 11 congressional districts. But they want fairness in elections?
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So do you think they need to get rid of vote by mail for everyone? Or just some people?
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Just the non-citizens, un-registered, non-existent people, and the dead.
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Special cases like deployed military, or the infirmed would obviously be eligible for mail-in ballots, but they would still have to be received in time, prior to election day. No vote counting after election day. Same day election results. Just normal, rational type of stuff. Not rocket science.
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My oldest doesn’t have a drivers license at 23,…. He DOES however have valid state issued photo identification and could easily vote in person.
Sure mail in ballots are easy, but they’re also ripe for fraud as has been shown in the past.
@Papa_Zed if your wife took part in the electoral process in her home country she had to go in person. Why should it be different here?
If what you say about her visa is true, then she should have a valid ID, so what’s the barrier to her and yourself from voting after the SAVE act is passed?
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She is not a citizen.
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The way PZ explained it elsewhere, she has a permanent resident visa / dual citizenship Japan and USA. (Though there never was an explanation of how maintaining the visa works)
The permanent resident visa should allow her the right to vote IIRC
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Here is the thing, if I need to show ID to exercise a right then it’s not a right, it’s a privilege. And the Constitution was not written for me to exercise privileges. Also the same Government that issues me that ID can tell me to surrender that ID or make it completely invalid, so I am always going to disagree with anything that is required just for me to exercise a right. I don’t want to have to show ID to exercise my right to speech, my right to own a firearm, my right to attend a church. When you start surrendering your rights for one thing, they will come for the next thing and I guarantee that. I proved my citizenship when I registered to vote, the nonsense of people secretly pretending to be someone else at the polls just to vote doesn’t happen. And we know this because there has never been an instance where someone goes to vote, provides their name and are told, sorry you already voted. It would be all over the news if this was an issue.
Two of those you don’t. So are you going stop owning firearms because you need ID - AND - a background check to purchase them? I see no issue ensuring those that those voting have the right to vote. You have never needed ID to exercise your right to speak nor attend a church. BTW, I thought you were Jewish. 
LOL, right, the dead just get up and go to the pollls and no one notices. You are amazing at times. Yes, 100% of those having the right always vote. Oh, wait, the polling numbers do not show that. There has always been fraud in electrions, might not always be at the ballot box. However, the board of elections does track in what elections you vote. That is just one way a fraudulent vote could be created. There are many other ways far easier that do actually occur, just plain ballot-stuffing and harvesting, as shown in 2000 Mules.
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Only need an ID or a background check if you want to buy a firearm from a licensed gun seller, I have over 100 firearms that I obtained completely legally without ever showing ID or having a background check performed. And I most certainly do not need to show ID every time I carry, because that is my right. Now if you want to have to show ID to the Government every time you want to touch your firearm like they do in South Korea, sure start giving the Government powers they don’t currently have, it won’t be long till we will be able to own guns but have to store them at a Government facility and show ID to check them out.
2000 Mules, hmm why do I know that name? Oh yeah the producer of that movie had to pay out a ton of money for the defamation of a man who had his entire life turned upside down because he legally dropped off 5 ballots. And then they ended distribution of the book and movie on their platform because of the blatant lies in the movie. Plus they are still facing defamation charges which they probably don’t have the money to cover, terrible investment on their end for helping to bring that movie to light. But hey, don’t let facts get in the way of your reality.
In Oregon we had Dennis Richardson, a Republican who ran for Secretary of State on a platform that our elections were full of fraud because we vote by mail and he would prove it once elected. Dude should have never been elected but he won and then he spent millions of Tax Payer dollars to prove we have fraud in our elections. I still remember the Press Conference he gave when he found without a doubt there were hundreds of homes in Oregon who were getting hundreds of ballots mailed to their single address. He found the crime and he was ready to bring down the hammer. Turned out they were all retirement homes, he tried to make up for his shame but was unable to find any fraud in the Oregon voting system and ended his investigation that the Oregon voting system was secure and there was no fraud.
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I thought voting by mail was for special situations. Like if you’re a solder over seas or incapacitated in some way. You had to apply for this and receive special permissions. And I believe it required identification verification. Wu flu driven fear was the catalyst to expand vote by mail. Now it’s completely fraudulent. I’m getting multiple vote by mail ballets in the mail for people that no longer live in my house. It’s silly. The selections have become a complete joke. It’s all a dog and pony show anyway. Even before all this. I knew it was bull when the bush/gore debacle occurred and suspected it was bull long before that. We should all consider where our taxes go, how ridiculous some of them are, and how reliant the system has become on them. Endless law fair, fraudulent programs, and so much more all funded 100% but We. The people. Could you imagine the power that could be returned from cutting taxes by 90%. Sure, We’d need to do allot on our own that We’ve been relying on the government for, and it would be hard, but We’d be much better off for it.
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Multiple states have moved entirely to vote by mail, it’s the most efficient way to handle an election and the way I prefer. When I voted in AZ I had no idea if my ballot was counted, in Oregon I can log into a website and see if my ballot was received and counted. It’s great I can even check to see if someone tried to vote on my behalf in elections I don’t find the necessity to vote in. Number of times I have found someone else voted for me is Zero.
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Wrong. It is proof of citizenship. Almost all married women will not be able to prove citizenship and therfore cannot vote without a passport. Their birth certifiacte name does not match their photo ID.
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Your vote doesn’t matter. It’s the counting and the counters that matter. Identification, no identification, who cares. You believe you’re tracking your vote, you don’t know you are. And maybe the government has never lied to you so you have complete faith in it. For me, that’s not the case. I respect your opinion and understand it. At the same time I totally disagree with it.
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If the government is lying to me about my vote by mail, then what makes you think I would trust them to vote in person?
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