Should handgun training be a prerequisite for a concealed carry permit?

This is why 2A supporters always lose. Facts don’t win arguments.

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Voting is not constitutionally protected? What do you suppose it is that Article I Section 2, the 15th Amendment, the 17th Amendment, the 19th Amendment, the 24th Amendment, and the 26th Amendment are intended to accomplish then?

Anyway, I think the analogy holds just fine. You asked for a legal framework within which firearms training might be required. In universal public education you have one. The analogy is not weakened because some life skills involve specific articulated human rights and some do not.

The solution is weak because “gun ban” proponents will object — and I guess you are saying that some “gun rights” proponents will also object. Still it is a legal framework which would address the issue.

You are correct that no amount of training or education can prevent every mishap and irresponsible act. The effectiveness of universal training seems yet another topic — separate from its legality and practicality. Are you arguing that — because it cannot be perfect — it could not be beneficial and is not worth trying?
That’s not how I go through life.

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Let me confirm… You suggest return of rifle teams into public/alternative/home schools, mandatory(at the state level, school district not allowed to override) gun safety classes, social studies to include lessons on lawful use of guns.

I fully support it!

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Do I believe training should be a prerequisite for a permit? No, if it’s mandated and controlled by any government faction (seems to go against 2A to me). However, based on the nature of owning a gun which I believe carries a responsibility for the owner to know how to handle it safely and responsibly, then I believe it falls on the gun owner to assess their capabilities and if they feel they need that training then they should obtain that training. When I bought my first hand gun, I sought out a friend who has been a gun owner for many years and paid him for training, because I felt it was prudent to do so (and looking back it was invaluable from my perspective). But that was my choice, not government mandated. Just my 2 cents.

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The sad thing is, this is more common than people know. Just not through the schools system. 4H has shooting sports. Just in the county I where I live in Illinois, we have archery, shotgun, and rifles in 4H. We teach safety, and proper usage, and get them prepared for state competition. Many 4H members go on to be national and even Olympic competitors. But, you won’t here that on the 6 o’clock news.

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…Will we HEAR it on the 7 o’clock news?

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No, likely if we do hear about it, it will be on the “alt” news… :face_with_diagonal_mouth:

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No, but training should be part of your gun education, either by a professional, or by someone that used to be an instructor. Not everyone can teach, and NEVER teach your spouse. Saves fights.

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My father taught me. He was not a “professional” nor an “instructor” other than the fact he taught his children. I recall my first firearm safety class. There was nothing in that class I did not already know, and most of that was taught to me as very young child by my father.

To further that point, I have taught numerous friends and family. I also got my NRA pistol trainer certification, but, again, there was nothing in that class that I did not already know, including that the typically brass part of a cartridge is a case, not a casing.

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Those are great programs. As are hunter safety classes, NRA, YSSA, American Legion, SSSF, and I’m sure many less familiar junior programs. But those all sort of miss the point — they are intended for kids with some level of interest and parental support to be involved in shooting.

The target audience for mandatory universal training is every future citizen. Not just those with an interest, inclination, or predisposition. The objective of mandatory universal training is more about awareness, responsibility, and safe practices — and not at all about turning out competitive shooters or competent hunters. I’m thinking more like Eddie Eagle from early grades school, progressing to health ed units by middle school, to PE units and electives (e.g. team sports, RTBAV, CHL) by high school.

Details hardly matter as long as it remains impossible to visualize the gun ban crowd giving the least consideration to this simple, common-sense, gun safety and violence prevention measure.

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Did not mean that family could not train, just that husbands SHOULDN"T because it can lead to arguments. Your dad did a good job with his kids, and hopefully you did with yours. Yes, it is a case, casings are on sausages.

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I use that same comment. :sunglasses:

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bump .

These guys already train teachers for free.

https://fastersaveslives.org/

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So what?

So… glory to them. :wave:t3:

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I responded to this with, “Yet people drive with suspended licenses, some people still cannot drive, accidents still happen, people still die,”

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Don’t forget the include the

-A license to carry (equivalent to license to operate on public road) issued by any state is recognized by every other state
-A license to carry (equivalent^) is issued to basically every person who fills out the form, in every state
-Minimum age of 16 to carry in all 50 states + DC
-Can loan to a friend to carry (drive) whenever and wherever you want
-Silencer (muffler) is factory included and, in most public conditions, required to avoid excess noise
-No caliber/cartridge size limits (horsepower/torque)
-No magazine restrictions anywhere (fuel tank capacity)
-Does not need to be registered unless carried in public, does not need registered just to own

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No. A Constitutionally protected right should not require anything.

Now, should you as a concealed carrier want to seek all of the training you can find. Then Yes.

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Should handgun training be a prerequisite for a concealed carry permit?
I am going to change my answer to yes for anyone under the age of 16 or 18 or what ever the age you are able to get a permit.