@Will_B Thanks Will. Shot free coffee cake for any one of you guys!
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20’, always the same pattern: low - left… that is usually indicator or trigger press issue (for right handed shooter).
Feedbacks, like these will always give you idea what to correct or improve.
There are a lot of factors you may check, once you isolate the weakness, but focusing on these may fix everything:
- shooting from the wall, finding reset, meaning: avoiding slapping the trigger.
- think about trigger press and nothing else, don’t fight the gun and trigger so you will eliminate flinching
I know it’s easy to write about it… but at least you have some ideas to think and work on. Definitely you need any Instructor who will look at you during shooting and give you live feedback and corrections.
I’m not telling those shots were bad… A lot of shooters cannot even achieve these results, however whatever we do, we can always do better.
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@Jerzees Good advice. I’ve been told this before and I forget sometimes to concentrate on the trigger. It would help with anticipatory reactions as well. I can never feel or hear the reset so when I do a double tap or rapid shoot, I’m sure I’m releasing it all the way out and back. I hear it at home if I practice with dry firing, but on the range, there is no way I hear that little click. or feel it.
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One of my trainers said 90% of shooting is in the trigger press. Like others have said, I’ve seen A LOT of shooting that is worse than yours-even at expensive training classes. Keep up the good work! Never stop learning. We are all cheering you on.
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@Sinbad Thanks! I actually “whoop whoop” out there when I think I’ve done ok! Pretty funny…
I’m working on one handed shooting. One buddy told me I shoot better one handed… !!!
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Trigger wall and reset must be learned by dry firing.
It’s impossible to remember about it during live fire, especially during fast string of fire.
The best way to feel the trigger and learn it, is just pressing and releasing it dry, not even using your shooting stance and platform.
Just sit relaxed, take your handgun (triple check if it’s empty) and work on trigger. Try to feel it. Once you do this for few days (5 - 10 minutes per day) your brain will know how much movement is needed to find the wall and reset and how much pressure is needed to break the shot.
For anticipation you can try “Ball and Dummy Drill”. Try it every time you’re on the Range.
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This is very possible.
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What is that?
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Ball & Dummy Drill
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@Jerzees Interesting. I don’t have any dummy rounds but I get the premise. Thanks!
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I’m certain you can get them at your LGS as well.
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Alright @Wanda3, I’m jumping into the trigger pulling fray. I am not a firearms instructor, but have been shooting shotgun, rifle, speargun, pistol, and recently revolver for over 60 years.
With that said, we all relate to verbal, written, and video instructions differently. A YouTube video helped me personally the most with pistol/revolver trigger control. I tried to find it, but can’t figure out what search terms to use.
Therefore, I am going to try to high level summarize the content. All of us are accustomed to picking things up between our trigger finger and thumb. When we (right handers) grip the pistol our thumb is on the left side. When we pull the trigger, we unconsciously pull the trigger finger towards our thumb. This rotates the point of aim to the left just as the pistol is firing. That is why the bullet tends to hit left of center for right handers. Ideally we would pull the trigger straight back towards the web of our hand between the index/trigger finger and thumb. Any time I find myself punching holes on the left side of the target, I slow down and mentally pull towards my right elbow. This always pulls my shots back to center.
This may or may not help you, but it works for me.
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I made it to the range recently and did not post any photos in this thread. The first photo is the first outing for my newly acquired first ever revolver - 357, shooting 357 FMJ. These were all shot Single Action (SA)
This photo is a 7-round rapid fire with Sig Sauer P938 9mm - the lower left target. Please ignore the shot out in the middle of nowhere, I have a lot of work to do to become proficient with DA on the revolver 
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@Gary_H I never heard of that idea of mentally pulling toward the right elbow. But it makes sense.
When I first started shooting, I was almost alway low left or at least leftish even if I went more toward the center. But many shots were through the same hole so I was consistent. but consistently low left! What you see above is improvement for me. Somedays I focused on a technique, like open eyes or one eye shut, or pad of finger or crook of finger, or did I not pull hard enough with left hand, or is the wind blowing (LOL). I try and concentrate on all of it and then it’s just fun to shoot as if in a defensive situation. I wont have time to aim perhaps or think about all that. I try to practice both. I appreciate all the advice inhere. I have a lot to learn.
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So confession time…
After I started training and learning what really happens in a defensive gun use situation, shooting stopped being fun. I haven’t ever really gotten the fun back. That’s not to say I don’t enjoy shooting, but the heaviness of the responsibility of carrying a gun can be pretty acute. I’ve been called “sober” before (and that has nothing to do with alcohol!) So I expect this is my personality that tends to take things too seriously.
Whatever you are doing at the range, I do hope you continue to have FUN.
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@Sinbad I hear what you’re saying. I have not lost sight of the seriousness of shooting or the responsibility. I study it, I practice it, review it, and continue to educate myself. At the same time, other things are important as well such as…the camaraderie I find at the range, the laughter, the community, doing drills together, giving each other feedback, and eventual friendship. When I am shooting, I am focused on all the things we talk about here…posture, grip, alignment, recoil, etc. Thats one of the things I love about it. I stay focused on that and am not thinking about other life stuff.
I find shooting to be a mind thing. Why am I shooting at a paper target? Will I ever have to defend myself or my loved ones? What would that really be like? What do I know? What do I need to know? How can I improve? Then I pray I never have to find out.
You know me, Sinbad, I use humor to cope. And the humor used on the range would curl the toes of most people! LOL if I cant laugh, life has lost some meaning.
If someone told me 12 years ago I would be shooting guns (and pretty good at it), smoking a cigar now and then (huh?), I would have told them they were out of their mind! As my son once said to me while we sat in a cigar lounge having a drink (I rarely do), “Who are you and what have you done with my mother?” I laugh at that to this day!
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45 feet! Good Lord that’s a long way one handed! 
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It was fun and, more importantly, gave me the opportunity to understand that I am going to have to further adjust my stance.
Due to some limitations, I need to place the majority of my weight over my left (non-dominant) leg. I’ll have to figure out what better positioning removes the left-side tendancy and then repeat drill until it becomes “normal”.
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