I’ve been following Larry Correia on Facebook and what made me read his posts wasn’t his award-winning works of fiction but his insights on self defense. His latest:
So I post about a new idiot point shooter, and I get another point shooting idiot in my comments. This one claims to be an instructor, and he teaches his students to point shoot out to 5 yards.
Somebody sent this to me from his page. Apparently he thought this was a positive. Zoom in and look at the holes. Let’s ponder on how stupid this is.
A. Point shooting has one use, and that is when the bad guy is too close to bring the gun up to use your sights normally. Beyond that use your ■■■■■■■ sights and aim. That’s what they are there for.
B. I see a lot of these point shooting idiots trying to stretch that distance out further and they do some crap like this where they bring the gun up to eye level and “point”. But if the gun is extended, why the hell not aim?
C. There are a couple ways to shoot super up close, and all those the gun is held near the body to keep from getting grabbed by the bad guy. This is the opposite of that.
D. They’ll say “there’s no time” but if you have time to go to full extension you have time to aim. Period. And if you don’t aim the first one, why the ■■■■ would you not pick up the sights like normal on the next one? When I tested this bullshit method on the clock after the last idiot, it took more work from me to NOT pick up the sights.
E. Look at those hits. The majority of those are not good. I’ve got one dork in the comments bragging about how he can point shoot at this range and hit a TWO FOOT target. That is not brag worthy. That is cringe inducing.
F. And again, this ■■■■ is not faster. They admit it isn’t as accurate, but they pretend it’s faster. Only it’s not. We have proven this since the 70s. This is not new.
G. “Muscle memory” is bullshit, it’s just shooting based on body index, but like we’ve shown over and over again anything that messes up that body index will absolutely ■■■■ up their “muscle memory”. This includes them moving, their target moving, transitions, or little pesky things like someone trying to murder you.
This guy is a dipshit and he’s either going to get a student killed because she couldn’t stop a bad guy in time, or one of his students is going to plug an innocent bystander.
Adrenaline flowing you will completely forget you have sights
Training either the gun at eye level, every time you draw, you are keeping your eyes where they need to be, on the target.
No shi!t Sherlock! You do not want to give the bad guy any time to make his next move!
There is not time unless you create distance.
Practicing NPOA negates having to sync your eyes to your front/rear sights. If your target is at distance (Indiana shopping mall) then you will need to use your sights.
On the clock I have drawn to target, without any sights on my G17, in 1.38, no red dot. Maybe he should have shown his clock because under 2 seconds is pretty damn fast.
Quicker out of the holster gives you more time for target focus(IMHO)
Will hits inside a TWO FOOT target shop the threat? Heart, lungs, neck, head, pelvis, balls. Yes
So, grasping your garment and drawing your firearm, bringing it up to the same line of sight each time is Bullsh!t?
Till this moment I’ve never heard about Larry Correia…
My thoughts?
Each of us has own standards and can understand things differently.
To be honest… he can write whatever he wants… since he is (according to the link) an American fantasy and science fiction writer, so he knows how to write.
Point shooting has been defined in several ways so no wonder why there are idiot point shooters and point shooters
For me - you can point shoot as far as you can hit target with closed eyes in 2 seconds. So depending on the situation, environment, stress involved, garment, and dozen different factors - it can be 1 foot or 20 feet.
Small man using small words. A good instructor would never be condescending, they would be helpful.
He must have never trained with a red dot, it’s muscle memory.
Does he not understand that you are bringing the sights up to the same spot each time, without looking for them?
But he states that you’re an idiot if you do not take the time to focus on the sights?
If he is some kind of big shot then HE should be the one showing proof of his Superman skills.
Ah ha, that’s good. John seems to be the mentally balanced one, and this thread had me wondering what happened to him. Never heard of this other idiot, and that’s a good thing.
Perhaps I’ll look up Larry tonight during my youtube session tonight, seeing as I usually end up on bs clickbait videos anyways, along with hilarious Tai Chi advertisements (no shirts allowed).
WOW! What a dik! Mr. Correia stick with yer book writin’ because you are a walking Clusterphuck as a Shooting Expert. My God man, telling someone to shut the duck up? You sir are a delusional Duckin’ Cliché.
Poo Pooin’ Muscle Memory? (or even the fact that Shooters vary in skill level and style—-what works for one may not work for another. Accuracy is not ‘cookie cutter’. Point shooting, snap shooting, is individual a GOOD Teacher/Instructor can implement a Training regime to suit each student.
NEVER YELL OR DISPARAGE A NEW (or Experienced Shooter)—who the duck does he think he is?
I feel pretty certain that there are people that can’t point shoot. Perhaps Larry Correia is one of them. While I’m not an expert shooter or anywhere near it, I can hit anything I point shoot at up to 45 feet. I don’t lift the gun up to my eyes, I keep it at upper chest level fully extended and can hit within a 5 1/2 inch target 8 out of 10 times. I keep it low so that I never depend on my sights. When I go to my sights, I am much slower because I guess I want the perfect shot, not one that may be 5 inches from the previous. At home I use a laser and everything I can find for a target from a 1 1/2 inch disk to a 3x5 card and have gotten even better. I think it is more about eyes, grip, and natural alignment than anything else. I don’t know how it would work in a high-pressure situation, but I don’t think it would be any worse than not remembering seeing your sites during one.
I have efficiently trained to point shoot up to 3 yards. I have trained up to 7 yards, but it is a single draw and shoot. The follow up shots are aimed.
The only reason I don’t aim follow up shots is because a lot of crime seems to come with three or more people these days. I would prefer them all to get a dose before the second round.
Yes there is. I grew up shooting rifles and had never shot a pistol until my 30’s. I used to love to point shoot my .22 rifle. I shot many a can and bottles that way. I wanted to be Chuck Connors from the show “The Rifleman” when I was a young kid. Memories, sometimes they are great to have.
Y’all can ridicule me if you want to, but as an instructor I teach my students shooting from retention is point shooting, or sometimes pointless shooting. Pointless shooting is having to shoot from retention because you weren’t paying attention while carrying firearm. So always keep up with their surrounding and be aware. I also teach them that no matter how much they train when the crap hits the fan most or a lot of their training will go right out the door. that being said keep it simple. Bring the gun to your line of sight no matter what position you are in, standing, kneeling, laying on your side, whatever. when they can bring their firearm to the high compress from the draw track their front sight as well as they can so that when they extend out, they should already be aiming at their target. I teach them to practice these things slow and deliberate and then speed it up once they are consistent and comfortable with that. I also let them know that nothing is perfect and when it comes time for action, they are the ones that have to make a conscious decision shoot
Shooting from retention is a specific drill taught in NRA’s advanced courses Personal Protection Outside the Home (PPOTH) and Defensive Pistol. Yes, The very nature of shooting from your waist immediately after a draw, because you are in very close quarters fight, means no way to use your sights.
And I’m proficient. 
