Oh, You Bet VA Democrats Are Putting Gun Rights in the Crosshairs After Big Wins Last Night

VCDL (Virginia Citizens Defense League) just put out their email with after election analysis and “next steps”. It’s worth a read, and if you’re in VA I highly encourage you to join the VCDL.



Never thought i would see the day…

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The Elections

Of the four possible results, yesterday’s elections provided the worst scenario for gun owners in Virginia and one that VCDL has been warning about for almost a year.

Starting in early January, the state will be completely under Democrat control for the next two years: House, Senate, Governor, Lt. Governor, and Attorney General.

Overall the VCDL-PAC supported candidates did well. For the Senate, 75% of the VCDL-PAC endorsed candidate won. For the House, 63% of the endorsed candidates won.

Initial Analysis

While this election was supposed to be a referendum on gun control, it appears to have had much more to do with recent court redistricting, which turned six Republican districts into blue-leaning districts. Chris Jones, Dave Yancey, and Rocky Holcomb lost their redistricted seats. Chris Stolle lost his race by 18 votes! A reminder that every vote counts. However, there will be a recount in Stolle’s race and things could change with such a small margin.

Strong pro-gun legislators across the state won their elections, including some in tightly contested fights, such as Amanda Chase’s race for her Senate seat, Nick Freitas (as a write-in nonetheless!), Dave LaRock, Emily Bewer, and Margaret Ransome. All won handily. Speaker Kirk Cox, who had been redistricted into a much, much harder district for a Republican to win, still managed to beat down his opponent!
The same for Barry Knight.

Tim Hugo lost with his opponent getting obscene amounts of cash from out of state donors, including over $600,000 from Michael Bloomberg.

Republican Senator Glen Sturtevant, who lost, voted to support a Red Flag Law bill earlier this year, weakening his base.

Anti-gun Rosilyn Tyler almost lost her seat. Her bad voting record on guns, especially if gun control gets passed in the upcoming General Assembly session, could well catch up to her.

The Road Ahead - Playing the Hand We Were Dealt

While gun control wasn’t the driving force for voters that the gun controllers hoped for, they will still use the election results and their huge debt to Bloomberg and Soros to push their gun-control agenda. Senator Dick Saslaw said as much yesterday, as he promised movement on gun control to Moms Demand Action and Everytown.

While we don’t have a firewall to stop bad gun bills from becoming law, we are not helpless.

  • The right to keep and bear arms is an enumerated and protected right, under both the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, but also under Article 1, Section 13 of the Virginia Constitution. That leads to the next item:
  • The Courts can be used to block unconstitutional laws and possibly provide an injunction against such a law taking effect until a final ruling has been made. We can use state and federal courts, including the Virginia and U.S. Supreme Courts.
  • Moderate Democrats might not go along with some of the more extreme gun-control schemes. Those of you in their districts need to keep the pressure on them.
  • We can push for more Second Amendment Sanctuary Localities, like Carroll County, which will refuse to enforce unconstitutional gun laws. Sheriffs and other law enforcement have no obligation to enforce unconstitutional laws, either.
  • VCDL will continue to be on the offensive, pushing to restore the gun rights that have been stripped away from us over the years.

What we need:

  • A stronger VCDL. Our membership is up 25% since last year (we have over 8,000 members and 30,000 subscribers to VA-ALERT). That’s a good start, but we need to have as many members as we possibly can get (there are over 650,000 CHP holders in this state, not to mention hunters and target shooters). Encourage your friends, family, and co-workers to join us!
  • Gun owners being more active and visible. Write letters to the editor. Reach out to neighbors and friends, especially those on the fence about guns. Teach non-gun owners firearms safety and then take them shooting. Talk up VCDL at your local gun range or gun club. You’ll be amazed at how many members of clubs and ranges don’t have a clue about VCDL.
  • More volunteers manning VCDL tables at gun shows and other events.
  • A massive Lobby Day on January 20, 2020. Take off work that day, if necessary. This time we are rallying on the Capitol steps for the first time!

VCDL is not going to back down - the fight is on.


It will have to be a fight at every doorstep when LE attempts to confiscate weapons that were purchased legally. JMHO. If the VCDL members join together, hire and consult with a pro 2nd Amendment law firm, start a class action lawsuit, where the legally proceedings would have to make their way through the court system, preferably all the way to US Supreme Court. Of course money would be an issue as the Anti-Gunners pockets are much deeper… Are we talking mass arrests if Virginia citizens do not comply?

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I’m not in VA, but the results were scary enough I joined the VCDL. You don’t have to be a Virginian to support the Second Amendment rights of our fellow citizens. :wink:


If you are inclined to become a member of the VCDL or support them, here’s the links:

To join VCDL , click here. To contribute to VCDL , click here.


The VCDL is organizing a lobby day on January 20, 2020 - I’ve added another thread for those who want to participate or organize a trip to have your say.


A little bit of daylight from other 2A groups…

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I guess the gun owners in Virginia will just have to take this to court. Do to them what they do to us…litigate, litigate, litigate…


MrGunsNGear just dropped a video on the situation here in VA. He lays out the proposed legislation (which is mostly the same as was proposed at the special session this past summer). And he puts out the 3 options, none of which are great.

Towards the end of the video he states

“For those of you outside of Virginia… They’re coming for you… They’re coming for you. It’s everywhere. Nowhere is safe in America today. Nowhere is safe.”

This is supremely important, IMO. States all across the country are slowly but surely turning blue, or key parts of those states are turning blue. This is not just confined to CA, NY, NJ, etc. Several former strong gun states are falling or at least leaning. Look at Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Texas, Pennsylvania…

VA is the template by which they will turn other states. They take stances that many people get along with (the environment, equal rights, etc) so people who are not 1-issue voters (pro choice/life, 2A, etc) side with them. And they are absolutely willing and able to outspend the competition. My previous post showed Democrats getting 2.5X the money as Republicans did, and the candidate who spends the most is almost guaranteed to win (I think it’s literally like 90% win rate).

Hang around till the end because he includes a video clip from Kitty Werthmann a WWII survivor of Austrian gun confiscation.



Just this morning I came across this article dated Nov 15, 2017. The view presented is worth reading.

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I think in Virginia it was election spending not immigration.

I don’t know about other states. But in Colorado the major immigration problem isn’t illegal immigration but immigration from the west coast states. When I lived there as a kid we used to see bumper stickers that said “Don’t Californicate Colorado”. The significant complaint was about people who leave California because of the problems that grew out of its policies … and then try to implement those same policies in Colorado.

It took 45 years, but it worked… Colorado is so much like California now that Coloradoans are fleeing their home for Missouri. One of our 5 neighbors left Colorado for just that reason.

Right now I think the immigration that’s killing red states is from blue states (not foreign countries), and I think the big money blue machine is making the most of it.

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Yeah I think foreign born immigration is one of those boogeyman concepts. I have not noticed anywhere near the numbers listed in that article.

I can’t agree with this more. Those who don’t remember history are doomed to repeat it. NorthernVA in particular is full of transplants from other states, here for the gubment and gubment related contracting jobs (this place is almost recession-proof). Now with Amazon coming there will be an even bigger influx as I think they are expecting 25k+ jobs over the next 10 years (25k doesn’t account for spouses, kids, maybe other fam). So NoVA is only going to continue to lean left for the foreseeable future.

But the biggest immediate problem is election spending. Especially out of state spending.


^^^ THAT right there.

Thanks Zee for the shortcuts, joining now.

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Big thanks to Zee, just joined VCDL.

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So the above shows the NRA ranking 71st and spending a total of $362,269. Low six figures compared to the seven figures spent by the “Anti-Gun” movement. All the money that comes into the NRA being spent on 7 figure salaries for the top tier personnel. Does anybody see anything wrong with the above? This is why i refuse to renew my membership to this organization. I realize “they” are the premier org to fight the anti-gun movement but seriously, there has to be accountability for funds being spent.


You read that right. Outspent by 5x in the state where their headquarters is just by Everytown for Gun Safety. I’m not just mad at them, though. There were many districts in VA that weren’t even challenged. If you just put up someone with a pulse, we might have gotten one or two more districts, let alone a viable candidate.

For the NRA, I’m not up for renewal for a while yet. If you ask me today, I would not renew. I even frown when I goto their range at the HQ (it’s the closest nice range).

But I do hope they get their act together soon because they are the only gun-rights group that keeps the anti-gunners awake at night. Yes, they’ve spent TONS of money on legal fees, helping to take challenges all the way to the Supreme Court. But they’ve also wasted untold millions on hotels, clothes, flights, and dubious payments to board members. ¯\(ツ)

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Relevant here… LaPierre got $2.15M in 2018. That is 7x what the NRA spent in Virginia, where their headquarters is located…

LaPierre received a base salary of $1.3 million, plus a bonus of $455,000 and “other reportable compensation” of more than $427,000, the filings show. LaPierre also received an additional $73,793 in “retirement and other deferred compensation” and “nontaxable benefits” from the NRA and related entities, according to the filings, which the NRA provided to The Washington Post on Friday.

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Yeah THAT kind puts a point on it :angry:

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