No Concealed Carry at a Gun Show?

Now, I have not been to a gun show in many years. I was visiting a friend, and after some range time, we decided to check out the local gun show. My friend knew the police officer at the entrance, and we had a conversation.

After reading the sign, “NO loaded guns allowed”, my friend asked if that included concealed carry guns. The officer said it did, no loaded guns allowed. WTF? Well, we left. I sent the people who put the show on an email, explaining that I would not go to a show that did not allow legal concealed carry.

I received a reply today, stating they appreciate my input, try to keep the safety of the people in mind… Just my guess, but thinking the promoters are not gun folks?

Don’t get me wrong, I understand checking any guns you might be wanting to show for sale, and I certainly respect the rights of a show, or venue to restrict gun carry. I just won’t participate.

On other forums, I have heard this is pretty much par for the course so to speak. Is this true in your areas?

Maybe I am behind the times. I have met several groups of gun owners from other forums, where we toured gun companies, visitors and employees, had gunz. With a Z… Never a problem. Hot ranges, no problem. Everyone knows you NEVER pull a loaded gun in public unless the SHTF.

Well, that is my mini rant for the week.

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If anything that probably comes from the owner of the venue.

If the signs in your state are not legally enforceable I’d ignore it and go on in, if they are I’d walk on by and let them know why they lost my business.

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I have been to gun shows in several states and have never been allowed to carry a loaded weapon in the door. Only people armed are law enforcement and the vendors. I think it is some federal law but have no idea.

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I don’t attend many gun shows as the entrance fees are getting outrageous. When I do attend one, I check the building as the concealed carry law is very specific about the no firearms allowed signage and a computer printout sign holds no water. That being said, if the building is properly marked as no firearms allowed I go elsewhere to spend my money, No Rights, No Cash.

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Nope, no such federal law exists.

I’ve been to quite a few in Texas and Oklahoma and was never asked to unload my carry piece but then I never made it obvious that I was carrying either.

Generally though they will not allow you to walk around with a gun visible that is not rendered safe.

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The Casino where I currently work Security is a Gun Free Zone by law, signage doesn’t matter here. That said, we still manage to have gun shows twice a year in our event center. We utilize the fire exits to keep the firearms off of the gaming floor though.

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In Missouri, at the “big” gun show in Springfield at the fairgrounds, you cannot carry anything loaded into the show, and there’s an officer at the door checking. They ziptie everything… including all firearms that are on display on the counter or table tops. Firearms for sale that are inside display cases are not ziptied.

At the smaller shows, if you carry in a visible firearm, they’ll check it and ziptie the action, but I haven’t been asked if I’m carrying, and I haven’t offered, so … gonna say don’t ask, don’t tell is alive and well.

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Not sure if the signs are enforceable or not. I have gotten some mixed answers on that. The police officer at the door said no loaded weapons. We walked, and I let them know why by email.

Funny, law abiding citizens actually worry about that, unlike criminals…

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FWIW the last place I am worried about getting shot is at a Gun Show UNLESS it’s a LEO. I was 15’ away from the LEO that ND’d at the 09 SHOT show at the FN booth, I still have the boot’s with a frag rip in them.

At the last show in VA I went to they had a clearing barrel. I ejected the mag put it in my left back pocket and put my +1 round in my right front 5th pocket. They ran a zip tie from mag well to chamber in my 1911. and handed it back. I let the slide go home (which cut the zip tie) and dropped it back into my IWB and snapped the thumb brake and walked in. SO I’m condition 3, SO what. I guarded a nuclear powered submarine in the same condition.

A CWP doesn’t give you inhuman rights. The reason the show owners do this is A: to get a permit and B: to minimize the insurance cost, The cost of all these things are directly reflected back at you in entrance fees. If you pay $10, they make $0.50. To have an unregulated event they would charge $25.00 and make $0.50. It’s just like the no selling without an FFL in the show, it is a liability thing to minimize cost. They don’t say you will be arrested and charged, you will be ejected and asked not to return. Do a deal in the parking lot and the State PD will hem you up for trespassing with a firearm.

I hate to say it but it’s how the bills are paid and how the game is played.

Cheers,

Craig6

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I have no problem with any venue having rules I don’t like. I just don’t participate in it. A gun show was the last place I expected concealed carry not to be welcome. I may not have mentioned this Craig, but the deal was really no ammo allowed. So that mag and plus 1 round would not have been allowed. I could have unloaded my gun and gone in, but to me, that is the same or worse than having no gun. I did not stick around to see if they just checked the guns or zip tied them.

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@Fred_G I don’t think I have ever experienced “No Ammunition” as opposed to “No loaded firearms”. What if I have a case of 30-30 I want to sell? I can’t bring it in? What happens when I buy a case of .45 at the show? Now I have ammo. To avoid delays I have gotten within 50’ of the front door and down loaded my pistol into the a fore mentioned pockets, paid my fee, got zip tied and carried on. On exit it was rarely more than 10 steps before I was up loaded again and moving.

In general when and if I go to a gun show I am not “shopping” I’m looking for something in particular. I find it/them, I buy it/them and I’m gone. It is not a social event for me it is a means to an end. My principles are not sufficiently offended enough to skip it if there is an item I need inside. Just me and how I roll.

Cheers,

Craig6

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This one was NO loaded guns, NO ammunition. I did not get past the door to see if any ammo was being sold. I don’t recall ever seeing a no ammo show either, I used to sell brass, and there was a lot of ammo for sale back when I used to go to the gun shows.

We were told that even off duty LEO were NOT allowed in with any ammo. Again, no huge deal to me, if I don’t agree with a place’s rules, I just don’t go there. I was surprised at the rules with this being a gun show.

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I’m not going to lie, every single gun show I’ve been to is a rip off. There aren’t any deals, prices are actually marked up. I see more people going in to try to sell guns to dealers than buying. I’ve had better luck just going to Dunham’s or a local FFL running sales.

That being said, if you have the fundage and you’re looking for collection pieces, there’s no better place than a gun show. I’ve seen some absolutely beautiful antiques and restoration jobs. I just can’t afford to pay that much for something I wouldn’t dream of using.

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I love that you have this mindset, @Fred_G. It would help a lot of people to adopt this type of attitude instead of being disruptive/harassing about it. If people don’t shop/patronize a location they’ll look into why and possibly change their policies.

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Unless there is a manager present, I just try to email them, notifying them why I will not shop at their business. Sometimes I get a reply, sometimes not. I know one local diner removed the no guns allowed signs. I stop there all along for food.

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Exactly! I usually go to gun shows in colder months. My c/c is safely tucked in my brest pocket.

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In Illinois it would illegal to carry at the gun show. The fact that it is a place that needs a permit to have the show to begin it is considered a place where concealed weapons are not allowed anyway. It unfortunate that gun laws have gotten out of control, but it is the world we live in. Be careful and carry responsibly.

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Shame on us. Yes is true. We always criticizing the stores that do not want CC, and here in our faces our own people doing the same to us. In Florida they charge the parking and once you arrive to the door they are checking (detectors) for concealed. We should boycott them as we boycott big chain retailers…

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100% with that idea @Francisco_J
And… I also want to support those businesses.
Not sure how I do both, other than attend the small shows where I can

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Depends on where you are, who is running the show…? Our shows have $0 parking fees. Entry fee runs about $10. Local PD providing ‘security’ i.e. asking if you have any loaded weapons as you go in. Never saw anyone get stopped/frisked/wanded.

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