New and looking for answers

Sister, Something tells me, when you see things starting to go sideways, you are smart enough to go hunt some yonder. I notice the child in your picture, so you already know what is important in your life. Do what it takes to keep your young one safe. But always remember the best fight, and the only one you will always win, is the one you avoid. Beyond that, keep those you love alive and keep yourself alive. Those are my priorities. Avoid conflict when possible, the safety of loved ones, Personal safety, in that order. Keep in mind, the longer you survive, the longer your loved ones will survive. Then remember that with this mentality, you respond to the actions of others, you didn’t start it, you stopped it.

I used to work at a fortune 300, I fired people on a fairly regular basis. But I didn’t fire them, they disqualified themselves because of their actions or inactions, they knew the rules and regs ahead of time. They decided not to comply. I just processed the paperwork and walked them to the door. Self-defense is the same thing. They attack you and yours, they crossed the line, you protect your own. Not a desirable situation, but protecting you and yours is the best outcome considering a situation you were thrust into. It sounds like you have your head on straight and are forward thinking. Never be afraid to ask questions. I’m over 60, been carrying legally for 35 years, I still ask questions and try to learn from others. Keep in mind, one day others will be asking you for advice and input.

The USCCA has a quarterly event on-line where Tom G. (A lawyer) and Kevin M. (A very smart gun guru) discuss legal related topics. They will announce that before it hits and I believe you can submit questions ahead of time. It might be another way to learn more. Again, welcome to the family.

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Believe me, with all the measures I’ve put into place to deter and prevent someone getting in, if they actually make it, well, we’re more then prepared on this side too!

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The beware of dog signs can be used against you in court as much as the signs that say don’t worry about the dog, worry about the owner (with the picture of a gun).

Dogs are a great deterrent themselves, so I’d just avoid the sign.

LOL! Kevin is also the Editor of Concealed Carry Magazine, current LEO, and former Navy besides being a smart gun guru. :wink:

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Took your advice got 2. One for the front fence, one for the fire. Beware of dog not responsible for bite or death. Or something to that point. Plus my dog (total ■■■■■ cat) sounds like a deranged maniac from the other side of the door!

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I am trying to imagine how, and coming up with nothing. I guess am not imaginative enough to be an attorney

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Please, God, YES… let that excuse for a District Attorney “be without a job soon.” !!

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Anything that could be construed to mean prior intent can be used against you.

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Warning of a dog isn’t intent. It’s a warning. That there’d be bitching about if it wasn’t there.

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Advice of counsel
Without proper signage, am I responsible if my pet eats terrorist with gun upon breaking into my home? How about no trespassing signs, alarm signs, no soliciting signs. All signs are a form of deterrence! Lights and cameras are meant to be deterrents. Isn’t that the point?
This has gone totally upside down. I totally understand “We don’t call 911, w/image of 1911.
Seriously, can you protect yourself or not?

Prosecutors, prosecute ham sandwiches. I don’t see them holding any of today’s criminals liable for anything! But because I warn you I have a dog I’m liable???

Let’s take this to the extreme. My 14’ pet anaconda, affectionately known as “Slippy” is allowed to roam freely in my home. While I’m asleep, stupid breaks into my home quietly. “Slippy” silently wraps around “stupids” neck and squeezes him to death. Am I responsible for directing “Slippy” to kill “stupid”? “Slippy” by nature is a man eater (stupid men) and stupid is as stupid does! How am I seriously considered liable when stupid breaks into my castle?

Someone breaks into my home with the intent to harm, I identify threat, I “intend” to stop threat!”

It’s almost to the point being alive can be used against you!

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Along this line of thinking, if I leave my door unlocked during the time I mow my lawn, am I liable for luring bad guy into my house?

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a friend of mine has a dog that is a real good dog but, it is very protective and has bitten people. She frantically warns them stay away from the dog. I don’t want you to get hurt, please! He will bite! Like I said, good dog! So, in her case a beware of dog sign is a good warning ?

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You know your damned if you do and damned if you don’t.

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welcome to the site.The right to self defense is a
God given right.The Gov.cannot take from you.They may try. It only works if we let them.It is better to be judged by twelve than to be carried by six.

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It’s a warning that you know your dog is aggressive and you’re OK with your dog being aggressive and possibly hurting someone…

DON’T Shoot the messenger. It’s one of those things we hear about that sounds rather asinine but is true.

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My dog is actually a wus. BUT from the other side of the door sounds like a rabid monster.

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A dog in the presence of its owner is loving and kind. Go there when they are not home, well, good luck! It has been nice knowing you! This is common with good dogs!

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I appreciate it that you did not like my response in a prior thread from several weeks ago @Scott52. I was responding to a specific question about whether a dog could be considered a deadly weapon and noted that it could not in Kentucky. However, a dog or any other living object could potentially be considered a dangerous instrument if used to cause injury or death. Even a vicious dog is not a dangerous instrument unless it is incited by someone to attack someone else. If “stupid” breaks into your house, the castle doctrine would allow deadly force to be used to stop the threat, whether it was fluffy, your 250 lb Mastiff. Slippy or you with old faithful, your civil war musket. On the other hand, if you knowingly lure someone into your home so Slippy can have fresh meal, or if you add peanut butter to a meal for someone you know is allergic to PB then Slippy and the PB are dangerous instruments.

This is one of those few times I’m going to disagree with @dawn to a point. I had a neighbor that had a 100+ lb. Rottweiler that had a history of biting. Yes he knew it was a bite risk and had beware of dog signs on his gates to prevent strangers from going through his yard. The signs went up one day when the meter reader walked in the yard to check the electric meter and, as he was just opening the gate, he saw Dante sprinting in his direction. Dante was a beautiful dog and he got along with my wife and I and we were often slipping him treats as we played with him at the fence line. Even though he knew me well, I would never have even considered going in the yard without his owner there.

I have also seen some folks who don;t have dogs put up beware of dog signs as a deterrent.

As far as tort liability and a dog, if you warn trespassers of the danger by posting a sign, that should relieve you of civil liability if someone able to understand the warning wanders into your yard.

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Thanks for the insight, @MikeBKY! I’ve always heard it the other way (granted I’m not in dog legal circles much so, it could have changed a while ago). I will use this new bit of information going forward!

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I thank both of you for your candor. Appreciate your answers! I think we are all looking for right answers.

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This may be a little different. But back when I had animals and livestock guard dogs my insurance (farm policy) would only cover dog bites if all the doors/pastures were posted.

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