Nationwide Concealed Carry for ‘Elite’ Veterans Will Create a New Class of ‘Only Ones’

It’s the right of the people, not the right of special operators. iStock-2263919737

“Today, Congressman Pat Harrigan (NC-10) introduced the Special Operations Forces Concealed Carry Act, legislation that extends federal concealed carry authority to both serving and veteran special operations forces whose firearms training and marksmanship standards match or exceed those of retired law enforcement officers,” a Thursday press release from the North Carolina congressman announced.

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“Federal law already trusts retired police officers to carry concealed nationwide. That makes sense. But it makes no sense that an active or retired SEAL or Green Beret, someone who spent a career mastering firearms under the most demanding conditions in the world, has no equivalent recognition under federal law.”

“The bill covers honorably discharged servicemembers from paygrade E5-E9, W1-W5 or O1-O10 with verified service in Army Special Forces, the 75th Ranger Regiment, Delta Force, Navy SEALs, Marine Corps Scout Snipers, Reconnaissance Marines, MARSOC operators, and Air Force Combat Control, Pararescue, Special Reconnaissance, TACP, and Special Operations Weather,” the press release elaborates.

That sounds like it makes a lot of sense. Who but a gun prohibitionist could be against that?

Perhaps uncompromising Second Amendment advocates who believe that such personnel certainly have the unalienable right to keep and bear arms but argue so do the rest of us, and the Framers never couched their revolutionary proclamation to specify “the right of the people qualified for proficiency by the federal government to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

If Rep. Harrigan can show his bill fulfills the Supreme Court’s Bruen standard of text, history, and tradition, and further document that the anti-federalists would have accepted such qualifiers and supported ratification, he needs to do so.

What we find instead is that their intent was for a militia of the whole people, and that a standing army was considered a threat to liberty. That makes it fair to focus dialog on that, and to what extent permanent alliances and foreign entanglements decried by George Washington in his farewell address necessitate a military industrial complex (that no less of a warrior and leader than Dwight D. Eisenhower warned against).

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There’s another question for Rep. Harrigan, who agrees that “Only Ones”***** exemptions for police “makes sense”: LEOSA the Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act, does not limit eligibility to Tier 1 operators. Cops who worked the desk and passed minimal firearm qualification tests also reap the benefits, and what we’ve seen from that is exactly what those of us who objected at the time warned “law and order über alles” gun rights groups against: They’ve got their seat at the table. Now, rather than clear a place to welcome the rest of us in, many, through their leadership, follow citizen disarmament orders and support politicians who promise a bigger share of tax plunder.

And while there are admittedly street cops who know better and vote better, there’s no evidence that more than a small percentage would refuse to obey orders to enforce infringements and risk their careers and pensions (nor is it realistic for most minimally activist gun owners to expect them to). But while Democrats are (overtly or covertly) in bed with “Defund the Police” extremists, gun owners they enforce edicts against are expected to wave the flag and “Back the Blue.”

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Then again, for all the hubbub being raised on this bill, passing it appears to be much ado about nothing. Per GovTrack, the federal legislation and voting records tracking website, “H.R. 8332: To provide concealed carry privileges to qualified special ” has a “1% chance of being enacted.”

So, what’s all the commotion about?

Midterms are coming up. Republicans need to look like they’re “doing something,” and this is a chance to paint unsupportive Democrat opponents as being anti-America’s “war heroes” (except for latter-day Benedict Arnolds lending their names to citizen disarmament propaganda campaigns like Giffords Veterans Coalition).

Harrigan, by all accounts that matter, is someone we should thank for his service and political support. He’s a Green Beret combat veteran, and A+ rated and endorsed by the NRA, so it doesn’t feel good to publicly second-guess his legislation. That said, history, particularly with another Patriots Day upon us, has shown us the dangers of elite actors enjoying privileges, immunities, and power government withholds from We the People. For Second Amendment supporters, that’s what needs to matter.

*** About “The Only Ones”**

So named from a comment by DEA agent Lee Paige, who told a classroom full of kids he was “the only one” qualified to be armed and then promptly shot himself in the foot, the purpose of this feature has never been to bash cops. The reason I track such stories is to amass a credible body of evidence to present when those who would deny our right to keep and bear arms use the argument that only government enforcers are professional and trained enough to do so safely and responsibly. And it’s also used to illustrate when those of official status, rank, or privilege, both in law enforcement and in some other government position, get special breaks not available to we commoners, particularly (but not exclusively) when they’re involved in gun-related incidents.

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I go to LGS and find this handsome handgun on the shelf and start to drool, only to see it labeled,

“For LE Only”

Yeah, Joe Citizen needs to be discriminated on.

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What about the people that are special operators?

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Under our Constitution they have the same rights protected as the rest of us. One founding principle of our country is egalitarianism.

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I agree. All are equal under the bill of rights. As long as your a citizen i may add.

I would qualify under this new supposed bill but its wrong

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So @Dave17 and @Joel106 we shouldn’t take a right away from someone because everyone should have that right. That is working backwards if we are trying to enforce rights instead of taking them away. It works both ways. Do we want more responsibly armed or less?

That to me is like saying you would choose not to save lives because other people can’t.

Sounds like Fascism to me, but hey we are already dancing with Fascism today so why not fully and openly embrace it where we give special privileges to those who are considered “Real Citizens”.

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It is not fascism to say that foreign nationals with no legal status should have no legal rights within our borders.

This isn’t about illegals though, this is about creating a social class based on service, allowing one class easier access to a constitutional right than another….. and yes this begins to dance with fascism.

Like the lefts “stop Nick Shirley act” which would remove the first amendment protection from not just an individual, but anyone wearing a “press” badge, and later will be used to condemn anyone for anything said against the government….. sound familiar? Russia? China? Venezuela? North Korea? Don’t forget Iran, threatening to execute their soccer team for not singing the national anthem….. Any of those regimes ring a bell?

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WOW! That’s a lotta Verbiage to continue the ‘RULES FOR ME AND NOT FOR THEE CLUB!’

This is REALLY simple even certain factions here wouldn’t object to (If they are TRUE Self Defense Gunners and not just AI Bots). EVERYONE has the RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS! It’s in the CONSTITUTION folk’s—I didn’t make it up? What’s the DEBATE here? How did we as a country let these False Prophet Policy hacks make…um… POLICY? How did we LET these Criminals brow beat us into the dirt on the side of the road?

And Lastly (My most favorite rant) : THEY WORK FOR US! (welp, that’s how it started before we were brainwashed into submission by the ‘It’s for the children set’.

Man, am I tired of THEM trying to DISARM us!

WWG1WGA

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Although I agree with you based on the principle of who should be allowed to possess firearms. I feel their needs to be an amendment to the 2nd Amendment where it replaces the word “people” with citizen. I am a constitutionalist and when the word “people” is used within the US Constitutions it implies everyone within the US border or Territory no matter their citizenship status. When rights are specifically reserved for citizens the Constitution uses the word “citizen”. It’s an extremely easy amendment change and I don’t think you will have anyone fighting against it when it comes to vote for the change. But it would make our Federal laws make more sense.

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For once papa i agree with you.

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I treat people the way I want to be treated. If I go to another country I would want to be able to carry a gun to save innocent lives. I think anyone here legally should be able to save lives also. To do anything else with a gun is already illegal.

:thinking: Should people be referred to as citizens? or :thinking: Should citizens be referred to as people? :rofl:

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Definitely not. People is a term for the People of the country, which means its citizens. People of the world is everyone in the world, People of a country are its citzens. In no way can a reasonable person miscontrue that.

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G-d calls people by their name. Just sayin.

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Just out of curiosity, I typed into a Google search “whom does the constitution refer to when it says “the people””

Even Google, which, by my eyes, appears to go out of its way to lean left with its AI responses, said this:

“The people” in the U.S. Constitution refers to the citizens of the United States, signifying that government power derives from the populace rather than states or a monarch. While historically interpreted in 1787 to mean white, male property owners, its definition has evolved through amendments to include all American citizens, encompassing diverse groups.

It then goes on to build on that answer and give references, as it always does with an AI answer. Google inserted the bold highlight in the answer, not me.

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Definitely not. People is a term for the People of the country, which means its citizens. People of the world is everyone in the world, People of a country are its citzens. In no way can a reasonable person miscontrue that.

So the 1st Amendment only applies to citizens in your opinion and does not apply to those who are legally residing within our borders. We have resident aliens along with people who legally enter to visit, while they are in the United States they enjoy the same benefit to free speech and practice their religion as they see fit. It’s what makes America a great place.

According to the AI search I did:

No, legal residents of the U.S. (lawful permanent residents) and citizens are not the same. Legal residents have the right to live and work in the U.S. but do not have the same rights as citizens, such as voting in elections.

warrenlawfirm.netkrilaw.com

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When I searched “Do legal legal residents of the U.S. have 2nd amendment rights” it replied

Legal residents of the U.S. can exercise Second Amendment rights, as they are not prohibited from purchasing firearms unless they are in the country under a nonimmigrant visa without meeting certain exceptions. This means that green card holders and other documented immigrants generally have the right to keep and bear arms.

The operative word being “Legal”

And as for the first amendment:

Yes, legal residents of the U.S. (green card holders) have First Amendment rights, which include freedoms of speech, religion, press, assembly, and petition. However, these rights may not be as extensive as those of U.S. citizens, particularly in certain legal contexts.

Freedom Forum Middle Tennessee State University

First Amendment Rights for Legal Residents

Legal residents of the United States, commonly known as green card holders, do possess First Amendment rights. These rights encompass several fundamental freedoms.

Key First Amendment Rights

  • Freedom of Speech: Legal residents can express their opinions and criticize the government without fear of punishment.

  • Freedom of Religion: They have the right to practice their religion freely.

  • Freedom of the Press: Legal residents can publish and disseminate information and opinions.

  • Freedom of Assembly: They can gather peacefully for protests or other events.

  • Right to Petition: Legal residents can petition the government for redress of grievances.

Limitations Compared to Citizens

While green card holders enjoy these rights, there are some limitations:

  • Legal Context: Their rights may not be as robust as those of U.S. citizens, especially in cases involving national security or immigration issues.

  • Government Actions: There have been instances where the government has targeted legal residents based on their speech or political activities, which can complicate their rights.

Conclusion

In summary, legal residents in the U.S. have First Amendment rights, but these rights can be subject to certain restrictions that do not apply to citizens.

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