LA Times posts poll results - do you agree?

I do not agree with any of the mandates that are being talked about at all, but for the first question on first time buyers taking a class before a gun is bought or purchased I marked yes. I did so because those of us who train and shoot often should be including our children, maybe even there friends when parents are okay with us involving them is such activities, they should be learning and being trained by us as their mentors. So in those respects i do not feel a class is important. For those like me that were around guns off and on but was something that was not apart of my life when I was younger, I feel a class would be important for them especially if there is not support from others, it helped me when I got more and more interested in having a fire arm. My Hunters Education class I took opened my eyes to new information that I didn’t know as a youth. So in those respects I feel a class would be important. Like others though a yes and no question isn’t always the best way to have polls cause there is always two sides to a story.

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Polls like this never get a true look at all beliefs. Easy to tilt a poll just by asking in areas you know favor gun control.

That is EXACTLY what it will turn into, if it be Federal, State, or these idiot enclaves of those that just want to make EVERYTHING about gun ownership a huge hassle! Ive been shooting since I was FIVE. Luckily, I had a wizard gunsmith for a grandfather (who is rolling in his grave now with all of this) no gun has ever jumped out and bit me and no shot I’ve ever fired went anywhere other than intended—oh—& NONE went off without the pull of a trigger! I do not want ANYONE coming up with more hurdles and alligator ponds, constantly adding ever more cost to the right to keep & bear. I’m also retired military—at the least, we should all be waived. If I’m looking for training otherwise, that’s my prerogative. No more mandates on we that have proven for decades some of us, that they aren’t needed.

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SORRY as hell for all that live in “left & getting only “lefter” states! Things should be left as they have been since the much smarter founding fathers—& most in politics and law making would not make a festering pimple on the butts of ANY of the great men who knew how imperative it was to conceive the second amendment! Lies and deception are really all that anti-gunners have, and they use them very well on the uneducated and those that are ruled only by emotions. I just about had a coronary when even one of the Supreme Court Justices, I believe it was Stevens, actually claimed that the Militia only meant “MILITARY”!!?? When anyone capable of either sex over the age of 14, in fact WAS THE MILITIA. Just about as hilarious as the claim that arms meant only muskets!

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Driving is privilege, not a Constitutional right!

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I would mind any of the rules, laws, concerns or a lack their of. Should started this non-sense from the start… Should’ve started at the beginning when the same Constitution was written. Same difference when everyone crying about Trumps taxes; nobody ever pushed so hard to see any mans’ taxes as hard as they have done. Why not Why use Trump or gun owners now? I don’t care either way just don’t make mass majority or people as an example. What I don’t understand why now why blame gun owners now why force us to follow laws when criminals don’t follow or care about gun laws; those guns are received from the black market. On the real technically it’s much easier to purchase any type of gun on the black market than going thru the Government Corrupt System…
But I choose to follow the laws when it comes to background checks. Only My Own Opinion!
I build my own guns and make my own ammo! There no shortage on lead! :slight_smile:

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Did you know legally you don’t have to obtain a drivers license. It’s was settle out in supreme court drivers license are not required or a written law neither; It’s simply a scare tactic and more lies this country’s government has carried out. Google… On this topic you’ll find more on it; forget the person name that challenged and won in 2000.
US Supreme Court states that no drivers license is needed in the USA ?

If traveling in my own auto in the US and not for hire or commerce of any kind,than a drivers license is not required.Therr are many Supreme court judgments stating so.My question is…can you come up with a minimum amount of paper work to present to a police officer if stopped to entice him to contact his superior for confirmation.

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Johns Hopkins is a shill for Bloomberg. I wouldn’t trust the poll as far as I could throw it.

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@Thomas74. It was Stevens;Tom, he hated that Americans actually had freedom,

I agree with you.NO to Mandated yes to common sense

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As we all know the issue is not the tool. People that are going to kill people that is a heart issue. Honor and respect and love for one another is simply going away depleting and evil and darkness is replacing it. They could take every gun off the streets including BB guns and it is not going to change the heart that is filled with darkness they will just simply use another tool we all know this. I believe George Bush Senior said it years ago there’s those who want a one world government I know this sounds like a conspiracy but hear me out in order for that to happen there can be no constitution of this United States and the only way they get The one world government that’s what Brexit is all about across the pond and they only way they get this is to disarm the people.

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Not the first one of these post would stop a mass shooting !!! Mental help would !!! That’s the real problem !!!

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There’s no such thing as gun violence. No gun has ever gotten up and shot someone. Gun owners need to stop using this term. Just like assault weapon. No such thing.

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Sorry, Vickie10. There is no Constitutional right to drive a car so your comparison isn’t valid. Pretty much everyone agrees that gun owners SHOULD be trained to handle their guns safely. What sticks in our throats is the idea that the Government can mandate a pre-condition to exercise a Constitutional right. I wonder if you you would feel the same if it were the 1st Amendment with pre-conditions. Perhaps Americans should be able to demonstrate a high level of education or understanding before being allowed to vote. Perhaps a Poll Tax. Jim Crow laws for firearms.

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The Second Amendment is a right. You should not have to be licensed to own a firearm nor should you ever be required to register your firearms. Bans on firearms that are not fully automatic are not acceptable. We have seen historically that registration leads to confiscation as the Nazis and Socialist Dictators have always done this.
The reason the Socialist want gun ownership held to those over 21 is to lessen the number Americans who are exposed to shooting sports and hunting, so that younger people will be more likely to be swayed to the Leftist beliefs of historically Nazi and Socialist (Communist) Dictators.
The only thing I reluctantly agreed to was the already in place training for concealed carry including the law and storage concerns for those conceal and carry…
Our country is unique and free because of the Second Amendment and Stand your Ground Laws. The Castle Doctrine is as old as Man. No one having a weapon in their home should be regulated by the government.
Our Leftist Communist/Dictatorship leaning Friends are welcome to post on their lawns signs that their home is a “gun free zone.” We have seen that is unfortunately is where most Mass shootings take place (even in Communist/Dictatorships). In the case of Socialist and Dictatorship countries it is sometimes the government using the “Gun Free zones” as killing fields…Those too ignorant of the world’s History are Doomed to repeat History’s mistakes…

Robert from Jacksonville, Florida. Signed up for USCCA after purchasing my first firearm (Glock 43x) and applying for my CCW license. Happy to see this community and the support for our 2nd Amendment. I’m American but grew up on the gun free island of Ireland. I used to think that the owning of a firearm was unnecessary for all people until I moved back to the U.S. as a teenager and realized how precious and unique our rights are. Our constitutional rights were designed for a reason and they are truly unique to this country. Regardless of your political affiliation, any politician trying to restrict your rights in any capacity is taking small but incremental steps to infringe on your freedom & liberty. First they’ll ban semi-automatic “assault” weapons, then they’ll ban certain types of ammunition, then they’ll look at caliber and so on. Government interference has never solved a problem - usually they make it worse.

Criminals don’t follow laws and the recent events just highlight why we need more firearms in the hands of law abiding citizens. If the threat of potential annihilation doesn’t stop a mass shooter from carrying out their act, the armed citizens standing their ground most certainly will. We have a mental health problem… sick people used to be committed (sometimes involuntarily) to mental health hospitals. For a variety of reasons - these facilities started to or were forced to release patients (that should have never been released) and the hospitals in their form started shutting doors. Now, instead of a solid mental health system, we have sick people running the streets (many end up homeless). A small percentage of these people, who could’ve been identified and committed are instead free to plan and execute mass shootings. Address that before you look at guns being the cause of the problem. Guns have been around for centuries, the uptick in mass shootings are more recent and with the news, more widely broadcast.

Mandatory federal licensing isn’t something that I or anyone should support. This should be a state decision, decided by the voters in the state and their representatives but only to the point where it doesn’t infringe on our rights. When California, New York, Illinois etc. all start voting to ban and further restrict firearm purchases than they already do, you’ll continue to see a population unprotected and at the mercy of the criminals - gun violence will increase. Politicians spend their entire professional careers running for re-election, do you really trust a person with no skin in the game to make decisions about your safety? The people calling for fundamental change in gun control are the same people calling our President a racist, a white supremacist, support reparations, lax immigration control and would bankrupt our country to pay for social welfare programs.

Speaking from experience having lived and visited many other places… gun control doesn’t solve violent crime (look at London, Chicago and NYC). London is riddled with stabbing, Chicago is a war zone on the Southside and I lived in NYC for 2 years before common sense and a crippling tax rate forced me out (I’ve seen more violent assaults there than anywhere else in my life).

Cherish your rights. They are truly unique and they were designed to give you freedoms that no other person in the world gets to experience. Freedom exists in other places but not the same way that it does in the United States. We have problems but there are other ways we can solve them. Nobody should disarm you by force. Don’t let them have an inch.

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Should people take a weapons safety course, absolutely; should it be mandatory, no. Our right to keep and bare arms is a right not privilege. Should you be required to take a concealed carry class to conceal carry, no. The right to self defense is for everyone it doesn’t mean you can take away that right just because someone doesn’t have the money to take a class or get a license. Should you be 21 to own an Assault like Weapon, no as long as you are 18 you should be allowed to own any weapon you want you are an American citizen and then consider an adult why are we taking rights away from people who have not broken any laws. Should you obtain a license, No a license is required for a privilege NOT a right, a right is granted to you by God or if you don’t believe in God, Natural Laws; a privilege is is given to you by your government. You have the Right to travel from A to B, yes; you have the privilege of getting there quicker with a vehicle but it’s not necessary for that right to travel making it a privilege. Do I favor an Assault Weapons ban? Absolutely not an assault weapons ban would not hurt anyone the criminals would still be committing these crimes. Rights do not stop just because a weapon evolves. Weapons evolve to provide better protection to people. Just because someone is poor and has no money does not mean they do not have the same rights as you or I. Everyone deserves to feel safe and to me the only way to feel safe is to carry and I would feel much safer if every person in the United States Carried Law Abiding Citizens with weapons is the best deterrent for mass shootings. The Supreme Court has already ruled that Police have no duty to protect civilians so it is our responsibility to protect ourselves.

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Yes but as the 9th amendment states that listing specific rights in the Constitution does not mean that people do not have “other rights” that have not been spelled out.
Like for example the right to live in peace, or just the right to live. Or isn’t that a right just because is not in the constitution? Or does the constitution stops on the second amendment?.. I’m
Just saying, I not take away OUR RIGHTS or limit them in a ridiculous manner, but we do need to do something about this epidemic. Why should someone that doesn’t know how to even hold a gun, be able to buy one? That’s a threat to my life and others. Before I bought mine, I understood that and took at least 3 classes before I went and bought one myself (and still need to keep learning).

That is all i am saying, you want one… sure no problem, show me you can handle it safely… is that a lot? Is that too much to ask to protect lives? I really don’t believe it is… but I guess 2A for 1 person is more important than protecting other people’s life. Like I said I am pro 2A, but with common since…

My reason for supporting some sort of training/demonstration/ licensing is that if we don’t actively seek to self-improve and defend our own carry community, sooner or later the “well Regulated” part of 2A will get twister into the basis for far more regulation than the above would entail. We do in fact require training, testing and licensing for simply driving. Surely we can come up with the same that doesn’t infringe our rights.

Should first-time gun buyers be required to pass a safety course on safe handling and storage of a firearm?

YES,…And Safe gun handling should be a required course as a senior in high school.
Because back in the 1700’s,1800’s and early 1900’s guns were a part of everyday life (mostly hunting)
and parents taught their children safe handling of a gun.
I know my parents did for me and also made me take the DNR Firearms/hunter safety course when i was 13 or so.
Because of the media today, a lot of adults are scared of guns and that’s what they end up teaching their children and grandchildren.
That’s why this gun hysteria problem keeps getting worse and worse and worse.
A gun is just a tool and like any tool you’ll need some training on how to safely use it.