A simple question: Given the current level of political warfare. Is National CCW reciprocity likely to be a 2020 issue or possibly an Executive order?
It probably won’t happen at all. Different states require different training to obtain a concealed carry license.
I agree. There is no way a bill would get passed in either house at this time.
It’s never going to happen.
Agree with all. In this political climate I don’t think the bill would even be brought to the floor, let alone passed by both houses and signed. If it were, any number of states would immediately go to the courts for an injunction while they pursue suits to strike it down based on state’s rights arguments.
IMO: The pendulum swings from one extreme to the other. Hopefully it never gets stuck on one side or the other.
Is it possible we’re getting to the peak of the swing on one side?
The unfortunate prospect we have to recognize that the democrats take control of the Senate, or worse, they get 60 seats in the Senate.
Our worst fear would be a new wave of democratic socialists being added to the ranks in both houses.
Or extreme right wingers. I keep hearing chatter about trying to get more people to vote for Francis (Beto) in order to kick start the next “boogaloo”.
If you’re not up to date on new internet lingo boogaloo means fight or war depending on usage. Both far right and far left want a fight honestly. Both think their own side will win. Nobody wins a war on the Homefront honestly, not when both sides share said Homefront.
We’re getting to peaks on both sides. The anti gun side isn’t even hiding the language anymore. And the pro gun side it getting more vocal about the repercussions of democratic policies
It’s dead for now and could not be enacted by EO. If he did it that way the whole thing would be bogged down in lawsuits and TRO’s for years if not decades.
I’m not that pessimistic, I think it’s still a very real possibility it can be passed in the future.
Remember there was broad opposition to universal acceptance of DL’s from state to state for many years based on the “we have different standards and requirements in different states”.
All it took was the threat to withhold federal highway and infrastructure dollars to get it to be the rule in every state.
I agree I believe it will happen it’s just a matter of time
I’m not feeling the possibility anymore… my boss said I’m his personal pessimist
I’m that “hope for the best, prepare for the worst” kinda gal. Heavy on the prepare.
I’ll never say it is dead completely. LEOSA took many years to pass and it wasn’t until after 9/11 that it got the traction it needed.
Hi Zee @Zee. At this point in time we’re lucky to have a rather Conservative Supreme Court. Lawful, legal law abiding gun owners are 100% second Amendment friendly judges and well Ruth Bader Ginsburg, she’s old and frail and I will not say a bad word about her because of her age and health condition and hopefully she will be replaced by a Gun Rights Advocate man or woman.
I’m with Mike here @Zee . I think at some point we’ll see a national license to carry whether we have mandated 50 state reciprocity for state issued permits.
We have a weird trend in this country towards more licensed carry with great support but also for more gov’t control on who carries. The simplest answer to that would be a federal carry permit valid everywhere in the US so I suspect that at some point we’ll see it.
I certainly expect to see that before we see a National Right to Carry in the form of Constitutional Carry because the anti gun left has just done too good a job of scaring the hell out of the public convincign them that with CC every felon and would be criminal in the country will be carrying and that LEO’s will be legally forbidden to stop them.
We know that isn’t true but that’s how they are selling it and sadly, fear sells.
You’re nice than I am. Her age is not shield against criticism and I wish that viscous gargoyle would to the right thing and retire tomorrow.
Right now I think her plan is to hold on if at all possible until mid 2020. If she retires then it will mobilize the democrats on the premise that McConnel refused to give a hearing to Obama’s last pick because it was an election year following a huge turnover in congress.
@WildRose @Zee @MikeBKY It will come like national reciprocity Drivers Licenses came and we take for granted now. It may be in Trumps Second Term or the next time Republicans hold all three houses but with all the millions of Americans who have a license now it’s going to happen. I myself have IL plus Non-resident FL so that gives me roughly 40 states I am perfectly legal in and it gives me every state I have an interest in going to, those others I really don’t want or need to go visit. I’m a midwestern guy and my heart is in the Midwest and I don’t have wanderlust like Kung-Fu at my age 69. So Charles I’m fine but I hope it happens sooner rather than later.
we need to push the notion of “national background checks should merit national reciprocity”…if not, then state background checks should be ALL that is required for a permit in said state.
once we have that, surely state background checks will not be enough to soothe some peoples concerns, therefore bringing back to the table “national background checks for all” this time with national reciprocity attached…problem solved
While I would welcome National Reciprocity (NR) I’m afraid it might not be the wonderful thing we’re hoping for.
My CCL covers me anywhere I’d want to go…where I can’t carry I don’t want to go to anyway (California, Illinois, New York, New Jersey…).
My fear is, that if a NR was in place, places like California or New Jersey etc would still abuse it. Since CCLs are attached to the DL imagine driving in one of those unfriendly states, being identified by your plate, associated by the registration and identified as a CCL. Where would the harassment begin or end? Do you have a Cali compliant firearm? Is your magazine considered “high capacity”? How about your ammo (Are hollow points allowed)?