I understand where the judge is going with this rulingā¦.
The right to bare arms and to self defense is a god given human right.
HOWEVER!, if I as a legal gun owner and US citizen commit any kind of crime I am stripped of my right to bare armsā¦
So, how is it that someone whoās very first act in this country is to be here illegally can have that same right upheld?
Also, how exactly does an illegal immigrant even GET a firearm if not illegally?
So thatās two strikes, the second one being a felony if Iām not mistakenā¦ā¦
Is it time to say āF##K IT ALL 
We shouldnāt be playing this game, it shouldnāt be a discussion, just a joke!
As ve stated before, should we just throw up the white flag
Hereās a better idea;
Cold dead hands
Go down swinging
Water the Treeā¦
Anything but Give the phuck up
For Godās sake folks one last fight for America
Iād rather die on my feet than live on my phuckinā knees
We no longer have a justice system in the country. We are ruled over by a bureaucracy with various levels ofsomething akin to robber barons. Taking from the citizens anything and everything they want.
I totally agree, but WTF are we doing? I donāt see a fight and no one has pointed me in the direction of the battlefield. Wait, the southern part of the US and the coast of Florida! Iām primed and ready.
Except thereās no SPARTAN to my right, and surely non to my left.
Present company excluded!
Ephiliates of Trachis ( 300 ) is in the White House.
And we donāt have the balls to march on the enemy even as we see him approaching! We are a failure of the highest magnitude!
An embarrassment to the FOUNDING FATHERS.
We are going down individually. They talk about the take over of America with a smile on their face. I am subjected to watch it from my living room rather than face my enemies in the eye!
Just the fact that the topic is āGun Ban for ILLEGALS Ruled UNCONSTITUTIONALā WTF , thatās already a loss, and why hasnāt he been hung at the nearest tree. We stand for this more than we stand for the national anthem.
A well regulated militia being NECESSARY to the security of a FREE STATEā¦ does it even mean anything to a modern American? OK, I can bear arms. I also have the right to bear car keys , but until I stick it in the phuckin ignition, Iām not going anywhere 
Itās time to start up the car, YESTERDAY.
There is no fight, someone has already raised the white flag for us, we are scared to death to form up and keep the enemy at bay. The enemy has already infiltrated, weāre F##Ked! The election is already rigged and no one is thinking outside the box. No one has broached the question, the big questionā¦ā WTF do we do when they handcuff Trump?
Thereās no alternate.
Give me a time, date and battlefield and Iāll meet you there.
This is how we think we look. Weāre nothing like these men!
Thatās why the movie is so appealing.
This is how it needs to endā¦
Itās obvious for us, this will not be over quickly and we will not enjoy this!
The signs are everywhere, weāre being CRUSHED.
Prove me wrong on any count and Iāll return from whence I came!
Daily rant, out!
What is a woman - I dont know, I am not a biologist!
Can you expect better answers to What is a citizen? What is a criminal? What is a country?
Why are they judges? Cause they are better that us!
Indeed. Historically, in the US, governments have denied that fundamental individual right to disfavored minority groups under the bogus rubric of āpublic safety.ā For example, when people get a CCW permit government uses that process as a means of inhibiting exercise of the fundamental individual right to keep and bear arms by mandating prior government permission to exercise that right. That individual right is not preconditioned on individualsā citizenship or immigration status. It is, as you point out, a āGod given human right.ā
When immigration or border issues are raised on this site, there will be commentors who will claim that immigration amounts to an āinvasionā and would likely line up among those who would deny the right to and bear arms to individuals based on their immigration status.
I thought the Consitution was for the USA not other countries as they have none.
While I understand the justification behind the ruling as it is the foundation of the second amendment.
I feel it is incorrect!
The constitution of the United States does NOT apply to foreign countries!
Never has, never will.
My opinion is that extends to foreign nationals as well!
Come here legally, and become a United States citizen, then and ONLY then will our constitutionally guaranteed rights apply to you!
When the Pendulum back to reality
these sh** stoopid Politicians and Rules/laws will be wiped
from the books.
If you canāt see this is a concerted effort to divide us all then
just drink the kool-aid and go away.
Guns for Illegals
$500 a month for Illegals (for doing nothing in Minnesota)
Interest free Mortgages for Illegals in California
and on and on it goesā¦
Hey, letās CELEBRATE the new Illegals from Haiti! At least they bring their own guns! BONUS!
This exemplifies my prior post. Is there any kind of immigration that is illegal? Who is an immigrant, and who is an invader? What is a woman?
There are clear laws on the books. Permanent resident is someone who holds either the US citizenship or the āgreen cardā document. Possession of a gun by someone who is not a permanent resident is a felony. Crossing the US border without permission is a felony. A felon possessing a gun is a separate felony.
Folks are welcome to argue all this, and blur the clear lines, no human being is illegal, the land is stolen, etc, etc. It is bogus and laughable.
Yes, it is already federal law - for decades - that only citizens and āgreenā card holders are āallowedā to own firearms in the USA. I have no issue with that.
Laws? They only apply to law abiding citizens! 
āFor our own - anything. For everyone else - lawā
Mussolini
āPower is born from the barrel of a gunā
Mao Zedong
Why the libs/dems believe they can exclude cartels from the law, and give cartels power, but later be able to wrestle the law and power back from cartels - I cannot comprehend.
An IMMIGRANT my Brother is someone who petitions for asylum/Entry into this Country
An āILLEGALā is a POS who sneaksā in by any illegal means necessary to start reaping the REWARDS for doing so by the current administration. When life was reality based and you did a crime
the LAW would be there to hold you accountable and you did the time.
Illegals were NOT āPRAISEDā for their gumption and 'Bravery for paying Cartels and Coyotes
to slither in here likes RATS released from their cages.
This country is going to pay a heavy price for what we let these āCorruptibleāsā do
to us for the last bunch of years
Anyone who thinks this will end peacefully has their head up their arse.
And NO Iām not Violent. Iām a realist and see the situation CLEARLY.
You canāt Vote this better, Run for Office to clean this up.
This is the biggest Hostile take over so these Criminals REMAIN IN POWER FOREVER.
And YES Mark that is EXACTLY right! You enter ILLEGALLY you have NO frigginā RIGHTS!
You come at us you are going to DIE! You come here ILLEGALLY you should get NO ābennieāsā
No freebies! No free Housing! YOU ARE A CRIMINAL AND YOUR FIRST ACT CROSSING THE BORDER PROVES IT! Oh, and you do a Crime? Kill our Citizenās, Rampage through our streets and Businesses you
better expect a severe response.
You call me Violent? Let them into your house. Use your car(s), Play w/ your children.
You criticize others for āDoing Nothingā Call us names, well you are a perfect example of
a SH** stirrer. You bring nothing to the table EVER. No fixes, No solutions, yet you sit high and mighty above us and say we are less than. Nice going Nero hereās a fiddle!
Begging to differ, but thatās not what the court ruled. The court, in fact, dismissed the defendantās challenge to Federal law, and the defendantās sentence was upheld.
For a detailed examination of both the case in question and the legal framework and background, the reader should examine the Harvard Law Review article which discusses it in detail:
Thank you Alan. Amusing though how quickly some folks moved to advocate the unlawful and muddle the water.
Apparently, during the George Floyd riots in Chicago, he was participating in keeping an eye on local businesses and one of the others there gave him the gun. He was walking around outside and got upset about cars flying down the streets without regard to pedestrians like himself. The court records go on to say:
āDefendant pulled the firearm from his pocket and fired seven shots at the vehicle, which Defendant contends were in warning. At 11:41 p.m., Defendant again pointed the firearm at another vehicle as it drove past but did not stop or swerve. He pulled the trigger of the gun repeatedly, which did not fire. Defendant attempted to unjam the gun and shoot again but was unsuccessful. Two minutes later, officers placed Defendant under arrest.ā
There are a lot of crimes he should be charged with and he should be in jail. He should not be walking free and should be held to the same standards as the rest of us for everything he did. I get what this judge is doing in picking this one statute to rule it unconstitutional. But this guy absolutely belongs in jail. And I doubt the DOJ/ATF are going to change Form 4733 to remove references to citizenship and āare you an immigrant here illegallyā based on her ruling.