Government Shutdown

About 16% of all non-elderly (non-medicare) people - US citizens and people here legally - get their health insurance through the ACA. So, yes, let put our citizens first and continue the ACA subsidies so their insurance costs don’t double next year. Or we could end the subsidies, they lose their insurance becasue they can’t afford it, they go to the ER when the health issue costs many times more to address, hospitals don’t get paid, they raise their fees for those with insurance, insurance companies raise their premiums and employers and employees pay those higher premiums.

So you see, we are paying for it anyway. In the end, it is either a fed subsidy paid for by taxpayers for people that can afford health insurance and can go to their primary and get treated when the health issue is smaller and managable. OR we can pay a much higher emergency medicial bill through our employer health plan and employee copays and higher cost of our company’s goods. Let’s do this Trump’s way - the most expensive and inneficient way possible that kills the most people. Yeah, let’s do that.

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So, no, illegal immigrants are not eligible for ACA benefits. Twist it however you want, you are wrong. The shutdown is over ACA benefits. It should also be over the huge Medicaid cuts as well, but that is an issue for another day.

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You’re wrong.

“…CBO estimates that the policies in the new law dealing with health insurance marketplace premium tax credit eligibility would reduce those who should not be getting taxpayer subsidies by 2.1 million in 2034.

Additionally, CBO confirms Republicans’ concerns with massive improper enrollment in Obamacare. The agency not only finds that Democrat policies have led to at least 2.3 million fraudulent enrollees in Obamacare, but also that common sense Republican program integrity reforms in the One, Big, Beautiful Bill will lower premiums for those truly eligible for the program while putting an end to these abuses…”

The democrats have shut down the government because they want to undo the greater restrictions put in place earlier this year.

Instead of working with Republicans for the regular appropriations to address any concerns they have, they’ve thrown a temper tantrum and shut the whole thing down, wanting to add $1.5 trillion+ in new spending, including subsidies for illegal aliens.

You’re also conveniently ignoring the 14 states, all democrat run, who do extend coverage to everyone, regardless of their legal status.

You’re not even trying to find facts, simply regurgitating the falsehoods reported to you on The View, MSDNC and whatever other far-left “source” you get your talking points from.

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Another lie from Trump cronies… The CBO report actually reads “About 2.3 million people improperly claimed Affordable Care Act tax credits in 2025 by intentionally overstating their expected income to meet eligibility requirements…“. Again, nothing to do with illegal immigrants. When will you people learn. Why you would believe anything that comes out of the administration is amazing.

I know you want to believe that illegal immigrants are the cause of all of our problems, but they just aren’t. It’s a make believe problem invented to further their agenda - and you believe it.

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WASHINGTON, D.C. – Recent analysis by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) confirms that Democrats conducted a years-long, massive cover-up to defraud American taxpayers in order to subsidize waste, fraud, and abuse in federal health programs, including using loopholes to provide free health care to illegal immigrants. Republicans put an end to these generous unjustified subsidies and instead lowered premiums for those properly enrolled in the program and provided a massive tax cut to the middle class in the One, Big, Beautiful Bill, signed into law on July 4th.

Lawmakers requested CBO provide critical context behind their topline coverage estimates resulting from the health reforms in the One, Big, Beautiful Bill. CBO’s latest analysis makes clear that the One, Big, Beautiful Bill is not taking coverage away from hardworking Americans but is ending billions in subsidies for illegal immigrants, cracking down on fraud, and restoring integrity to health care programs. CBO estimates that the policies in the new law dealing with health insurance marketplace premium tax credit eligibility would reduce those who should not be getting taxpayer subsidies by 2.1 million in 2034.

Additionally, CBO confirms Republicans’ concerns with massive improper enrollment in Obamacare. The agency not only finds that Democrat policies have led to at least 2.3 million fraudulent enrollees in Obamacare, but also that common sense Republican program integrity reforms in the One, Big, Beautiful Bill will lower premiums for those truly eligible for the program while putting an end to these abuses.

The request was made by the chairmen of the House Committees on Energy and Commerce, Ways and Means, and Budget: Congressman Brett Guthrie(KY-02), Congressman Jason Smith (MO-08), and Congressman Jodey Arrington (TX-19).

Chairmen Guthrie, Smith, and Arrington Issued the Following Joint Statement:

“CBO found Democrats’ policies to be responsible for massive waste, fraud, and abuse in federal health programs, even forcing taxpayers to pay for the health care of illegal immigrants, including some of the worst criminal offenders. Thanks to the One, Big, Beautiful Bill, Republicans are protecting taxpayers and delivering pro-growth tax cuts for Americans. In fact, CBO confirmed that because of our reforms, premiums will go down for Obamacare enrollees. It’s no surprise Democrats failed to hold government bureaucrats accountable and continue to side with illegal immigrants.”

Key Details:

The only populations impacted by Republican safeguards in the One, Big, Beautiful Bill are ineligible groups including:

  • 1.2 million illegal immigrants or non-citizens made eligible for taxpayer-funded subsidies via Democrat-created loopholes, who will no longer receive Obamacare subsidies after years of Biden-Harris abuse of “lawful presence” definitions.

  • 700,000 individuals who refuse to comply with common-sense income and other verification requirements designed to stop waste, fraud, and abuse.

  • 400,000 individuals abusing a Biden-era special enrollment period that CBO itself confirms encouraged fraud and improper enrollment.

CBO Confirms Widespread Fraud and Abuse:

CBO analysis finds massive Obamacare fraud and confirms Republican-led reforms will protect federal health programs from waste, fraud, and abuse and will ensure that these resources are protected for the most vulnerable.

  • 2.3 million Obamacare enrollees in 2025 improperly claimed premium tax credits, often by misreporting income to qualify for subsidies for which they were not eligible. CBO analysis confirms that expanded credits under Biden-Harris fueled this abuse at American taxpayers’ expense.

  • $185 billion in savings to taxpayers due to Republican reforms in the One, Big, Beautiful Bill that reverse Obamacare fraud and protect those truly eligible, according to CBO and the Joint Committee on Taxation.

  • CBO projects premiums will go down by 0.6 percent, thanks to the One, Big, Beautiful Bill – proof that program integrity and accountability put downward pressure on costs.

  • Additionally, the new program integrity rules by the Trump Administration will block improper enrollments and prevent as many as 500,000fraudulent subsidies in a single year, according to CBO.

The Bottom Line: Democrats’ expansion of Obamacare subsidies prioritized illegal immigrants and fraudulent enrollees over hardworking Americans. The One, Big, Beautiful Bill ends these taxpayer-funded handouts and restores fairness, accountability, and the rule of law in our health care system.”

The entirety of the text from the link above.

You can pretend all you want that illegal immigrants aren’t getting healthcare at the expense of U.S. citizens. You live in your alternate reality for as long as you want. The fact is that you will remain wrong.

The BBB strengthened the law around who is eligible and who is not, primarily with respect to illegal aliens. Your democrats are specifically trying to undo those restrictions which would allow those illegal immigrants to continue to suck the money out of the system and, more importantly, the actual citizens who pay into these programs.

A few months ago you were railing against government spending. Now, just like that, you’re in favor of adding more than $1.5 trillion? Odd. You are so blinded by hatred and TDS that you refuse to acknowledge facts.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1/summary/53?_vwo_uuid=DB720A37E7525D177CD94B1E5C40F0766&uscca_vwo_exp_data=77[2]1759768185663-21&ajs_anonymous_id=8c26784d-dea9-4bf8-0236-d08eaeeb8928&tID=65f496ede190e

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He’s too far gone dude, he can’t be saved.

TDS is terminal.

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I agree.

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“The Democrats are so cruel in their continual votes to shut down the government that they forced the WIC program for the most vulnerable women and children to run out this week.

Thankfully, President Trump and the White House have identified a creative solution to transfer resources from Section 232 tariff revenue to this critical program.

The Trump White House will not allow impoverished mothers and their babies to go hungry because of the Democrats’ political games.”

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What government services are we missing, or more importantly, not missing?

DOGE them!

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Not sure about the rest of you, but I have not noticed a difference with the Government being shutdown, maybe they should make this permanent and just save us a ton of money.

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Quoting Trump propaganda is not pursuasive. Sorry. Try again.

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The Federal Medical Assistance Percentage drives federal funding for Medi-Cal.

The federal government pays a certain percentage of a state’s Medicaid costs. This is called the Federal Medical Assistance Percentage (FMAP) and varies from state to state. California’s FMAP is generally 50%, the lowest the federal government can provide under current law. This means the federal government pays half the cost of providing coverage, and California pays the other half.”

“…IN SUMMARY

Undocumented Californians are leaving health care clinics with “smiles” after they learn they’re newly eligible for Medi-Cal insurance. The health insurance expansion was decades in the making for immigrant advocates…

…Beginning Jan. 1, for the first time, undocumented immigrants of all ages will qualify for Medi-Cal, the state’s health insurance program for extremely low-income people. It makes California among the first states to fund comprehensive health care for undocumented immigrants. Oregon in July dropped age restrictions for undocumented immigrants in its low-income state health insurance program…”

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Interesting. Mr. Lawler of NY presented Dollar Store with a bipartisan compromise that extends the increased subsidies for the failing obamacare for a year. Unsurprisingly, Temu-obama refuses to sign it. Wonder why that is…

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They don’t want their slush funds messed with at all.

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Maybe you guys will believe Fox News. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ol71-j1Ug9Q

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How does listening to a democrat on Fox News equate to “believe Fox News”?

More importantly, there are exactly zero people arguing that the enhanced subsidies for the unAffordable Care Act aren’t near their expiry date.

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I know clients and families who do benefit from that Womens’, Infants’, and Children program. Good to hear. I just had to refer someone last week to WIC.

https://www.fns.usda.gov/wic

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Our CIC…

:us_outlying_islands:

President Donald Trump on Saturday said the government would issue paychecks to military service members during the government shutdown, ordering Defense Department officials to repurpose money to make payroll.

In a social media post, Trump said he would use “my authority, as Commander in Chief, to direct our Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, to use all available funds to get our Troops PAID.”

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Any Percentage is 100% too much.

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If you are walking down the street and you see an accident happen right in front of you, there is a guy bleeding out, and you have a tourniquet, and you could save him. Do you let him bleed out because you don’t know if he is legal or not…? This is what we are talking about in an ER situation. So are you a Monster or Human?

Where are those Epstein files… Hiding Pedos really…

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