Flock cameras infrastructure has integrated your residential security cameras

I went down the rabbit hole investigating these cameras after one was suddenly installed at the front of my neighborhood. Here’s a security researcher explaining Flock camera infrastructure expansion using AI (and your home security camera) in 2 minutes

https://x.com/PoliceThePolic1/status/2016592362328166666?s=20

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Like a gun, it seems to me, they are designed to keep us safe. As long as they are used responsibly I see nothing but positive outcomes.

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OoooooooooooooKay, ‘I AM FROM THE GUBERMENT AND I AM HERE TO HELP YOU’…hmmm?
This has always been a Sticky Wicket ’ To Surveil or not to Surveil that is the Question’ :rofl:ess I don’t really have a problem with all these camera out in the World (since I don’t …usually… do anything Illegal…usually :innocent:. When I had my ‘Head On Collision’ after a day or so to clear the concussion I called the area (Rio Rancho, NM) for footage of the accident/Crime and they reported that Camera @ that Intersection weren’t working… Well, why not (No answer).
So, factoring THAT information in I say who cares, As mentioned we have 'Ring (doorbell) cam’s My neighbor has all around her house Cam’s, Deli’s gas stations, even a bathroom Cam in Amarillo (Not in the stalls…I don’t think) whatever… If I’m in a Righteous Shoot I would hope these damn things are working. Otherwise I ain’t worried about my mug passed all over the Alphabit Agencies networks ( George Orwell wrote a weirdly scary book , but that doesn’t mean his wasn’t way ahead of the game)
WWG1WGA (am I still allowed to print that? :laughing:

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The expansion of these new abilities (to include residential and business cameras) quietly changed it from being license plate reading into a full fledged surveillance state. This means we will be in the same boat as the UK and Israel with constant monitoring outside and even INSIDE our homes if you have baby monitors, garage cameras, nanny cams, etc.

These devices are run by a 3rd party company, not the government. Law enforcement pays a subscription fee to use them. Flock says they only hold the video for 30 days unless agencies pay, but it was found they hold onto the algorithmic data indefinitely. No one has any way of knowing who they sell that data to.

Also, their devices are plagued with serious security vulnerabilities (as shown in the video below). All there data is being blasted out insecurely onto the internet which is easily accessible on Shodan.io (a specialized search engine that shows data bleeding from insecure Internet-connected devices). Even if you lock down your personal security cameras so people nearby can’t access them, Flock infrastructure will let anyone on the internet see them.

This is a bait and switch that significantly undermines the 4th amendment.

Here’s a YouTube video of of a security researcher hacking 30 Flock cameras in 30 seconds:

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we knew about it since 2011 :wink:

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Well yeah, same with guns, if they are used irresponsibly they are not good. It all depends on who is using them.

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Some will like and use some will say no way it’s like’s a gun it’s what you like and are comfortable with. Myself no thanks, other then this site I have no social media or anything else no banking on line

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Sorry for the unsolicited advice but you may want to consider creating the online accounts for any of your financial companies (bank, credit cards, loans, and retirement stuff) while using a crazy long passwords you don’t even need to remember. That way if someone acquires enough of your information, they can’t create the accounts in your stead and spend your money or take over the accounts. That’s one of the cyber attacks I’ve read about in the past and it’s a painful battle to kick them out afterwards.

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It would make it easier to grade your Social Rating. :roll_eyes:

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So glad I setup my own home security system and not using a service, if the Government wants to access to my footage they can ask me directly and I will think about it.

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Yes, I do not use ring, either. I have a closed system, too. One thing we are able to agree with.

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Indeed, Flock and Amazon made an agreement last year to share data with cops. As of January 1st, Amazon turned on AI facial recognition on all their Ring devices. Welcome to the surveillance state.

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Sounds to me like everyone wants to tell them to take their shiat and get the FLOCK out of here.

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I did some research on my security camera brand (EUFY). I knew my data was supposed to be kept local and encrypted at my house but started wondering if they could still let the Flock pull the video feed since I can access my system from my phone. Apparently, they can’t partner with Flock at this time because of the design but I’ve still sent them a message asking them maintain their posture on the subject. I’m a bit relieved because I use internal cameras to keep track of my autistic son when I’m working upstairs.

I’m not as much concerned about local law enforcement keeping tabs on me as I am aggressive state actors like China who have been tracking gun owners, law enforcement, veterans, etc in their Shenzhen Zhenhuan’s OKIDB database. A portion of that database was hacked and analyzed in Sept 2020 revealing it has profiles on foreign citizens from the US, UK, Australia, and India. China still denies it exists (yeah, we didn’t see what we saw) but the belief that it’s being collected to know which citizens are a threat or an ally in an invasion.

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I live in far rural northwest IL. And our area has installed these cameras everywhere. (There are many other more covert styles in places that have electric and don’t need the solar. Like on traffic signals.) The local authorities are very transparent in sharing whenever this camera data is used to solve something. usually things like drunk drivers and stolen cars. But it has also been used to assist in solving some property crimes, and even to locate a missing person. So far it seems like having these extra ‘eyes’ on the streets for LEO has been very beneficial.

Now of course, if they are using the data for other purposes, I’m guessing they would be tight lipped. But since you are likely to be on a camera somewhere just about anytime you are in a public space, I have no issue with these.

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I understand and accept I’ll be on cameras outside my house but I’ll always resist the government, private companies, or threat actors looking inside my house without a warrant. I’m a constitutionalist so I get a bit twitchy when the government crosses any of the lines given the constitution was written to limit their abilities, not ours.

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