How could extra mags hurt you? I mean, why even load the mag or just put 3 rounds in your revolver. Now, if you do 3 mag dumps on a person, I can see that being a problem.
@Blacky I’m one of those guys that IF I ask a question I already know the answer and @MikeBKY has already addressed the reloading issue on another thread (nothing he can find). The truth is it is a wives tail that has been perpetuated for decades by well meaning folk. “Give the lawyer/prosecutor nothing to hang you with.” Sound advice but I am more inclined to have the most efficient machine that I can get and one that I am totally comfortable with which makes me safer and more proficient. I would rather go into a court fight knowing that everything I did was deliberate and as a result of training and practice rather than “He was new to firearms and didn’t mean to …”
Training and practice I can defend the other I can’t.
Craig6. Sounds familiar ( don’t ask a question unless you know something about the answer ) I don’t know where I picked it up about having xtra mags on you. If I can find it I’ll let you know.
@OldGnome AGI is one of those institutions with a checkered past, kind of like that trucking company that was hemmed up for fudging certs. I actually won a 12 CD set of their “Gunsmithing Courses” at some comp or another. Let’s just say I was less than impressed. There is no nationally or internationally recognized sanctioning body for gunsmiths. That being said it would be a great money making opportunity for someone with the $$$ to develop. Much like every police department and military organization will recognize an NRA instructor credential to train and certify folks. If you look at what is actually required to be an NRA instructor you would run screaming to the hills if one approached you to “get certified”. Don’t get me wrong there are good ones out there but if you are 21, can take a test and hit an 8" paper plate at 15" and pay the bill you are one.
@Craig6 - curious response.
My intent was not to lobby on behalf of AGI, but to show just how easy such a piece of information could be found. I’m not vouching for AGI, but attempting to show that your query was disingenuous.
I hear you and get it. It was a loaded question and I admit that. The reality is what it is, any chuckle head with a Dremel and a pack of files can call him/herself a gunsmith and unlike most “trades” there is no real sanctioning body to verify that. Too many people say you need a "certified gunsmith"to work on your EDC. So somebody that can show you a grad cert from your particular stick’s school of armory is a step above, there is no such thing as a certified gunsmith by any recognized standard. Which if you think about it is pretty strange considering the gravity of gunsmithing.
Alternating carry depending on clothing. One modified, one not.
P938, not modified
M&P shield with TLR-6. Planning either an Apex or Monarch trigger.
Okay, it’s not about guns, but it is about custom mods. Stop me if I’ve already told you this story.
My great-great-great-great-great grandfather was given a hatchet by none other than the legendary Daniel Boone, who had used it while exploring the frontier. It’s been handed down, father to son, for more than two hundred years.
Sometime in the early 1800s, the handle broke, and my great-great-great-great grandfather replaced it. Then in 1929 (I remember, because it was the year the Great Depression began), the head split, and my great-grandfather fitted a new one.
Today, I own this magnificent hatchet, and frequently muse on its history, and all it must have seen as Boone carried it on his belt through the Cumberland Gap.
Sometime I’ll tell you about my upgraded Sig P320 with custom frame, grip, slide, sights and trigger.
20 shots in 8" circle. 16 out of the 20 must have been in 6" group.
I had the hammer bobbed and trigger lightened on my S&W Model 60 snub to make it safer to shoot DAO, so I could hit my target.
I added an optic to my VP9 so I could hit my target, which makes it safer.
Hear a-lot good about Apex triggers kits.
EDC gun modification
Update Paperwork, videos an Attorney information on the modified EDC gun. My post is in Categories, Conceal Carry Heading Legal Liability for Carry Gun Modifications
@G.Washington I don’t have paperwork on carrying a modified EDC only information. Years ago we were putting on a pistol training class and had a guest speaker, he was a Assistant District Attorney, nice guy and all, and a good Q&A with the class. The one thing he tried to make clear to everyone was do not make modifications to our EDC such as trigger jobs, barrel mods etc… like one’s we might use in a competition gun. Reason being is in a self defense shooting case the EDC hand gun will go through testing to see if it’s been modified from factory spec’s, (Example: factory trigger pull 7lbs, mod EDC 2lb trigger pull) from the ADA these type of modifications give the Attorneys/Jury ammunition against the person defending them self, because the EDC gun has been tricked out and is an advantage. He put it this way, it’s no different than an officer involved shooting, there weapon is taken and tested for modifications also, and hopefully it checks out to factory spec’s. Any way just my two cents in the conversation. Everyone stay safe.
Ps. I’m all for having an advantage when it comes to the fight, but I don’t want that advantage to put me in jail.
Not to beat a dead horse, but do you have any examples of this actually happening in court?
I can nail 50" all day long.
I think you meant 45 feet? 45 yards would be most impressive.
There’s another topic on the forum about an Oklahoma self-defense shooting where the grandfather of one of the perpetrators is talking about how it wasn’t a fair fight, because the homeowner they were trying to rob was armed with an AR-15.
A lawyer can argue whatever they want to try to persuade a jury. I can see inscribing a gun with “Kill them all, let God sort them out” as a strong argument for a prosecutor, but gun mods to make it easier to defend yourself is a bad idea? I don’t buy it. Might as well say don’t carry a 45, because it gives you a greater advantage than a 22.
I’m with @Fred_G, I’d want examples from any instructor that tells this.
@Fred_G Like I said no paperwork and nothing from a court case just the ADA talking about the issue in the class.
12 year half life.
3 magazines shouldn’t be an issue. Just look at how well tasers work on criminals.
If I change out the trigger, make the reset shorter it is because of a physical handicap. Having a handicap makes everyone that wishes me harm fall into the Disparity of Force column.
S&W designed the EZ9 and EZ380 to accommodate those with handicaps who want to defend themselves.