Doctor Questions about Gun Ownership

You know that, I know that, and I’m pretty sure everyone participating here would agree.

Unfortunately the people with the power and influence don’t. They are simply looking for any excuse to label those of us who arm ourselves in defense are a far bigger danger than the criminal class that preys on us all.

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^^^ This. Right here.

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I’m going to take this a step further. Those same people are going to say and do the same thing for those who carry daily.

“You’re obviously paranoid that something bad will happen, otherwise you wouldn’t feel the need to carry a weapon on your person. Such extreme paranoia hints at a larger underlying mental illness.”

This is what will happen when we give that inch. No one is ever content with just taking the metaphorical inch.

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Absolutely. I can’t even begin to count all the times where I’ve seen comments like, “What are you afraid of”, or “Why do you live in such fear you feel the need to have a gun on you at all times”?

They simply don’t understand the simple adage, “Be Prepared”.

I’m not afraid, I don’t fear ending up being the victim of a crime, I’m simply prepared to deal with such threats if they arise. To me that’s no more paranoid than having a first aid kit in your home and another in your vehicle or a spare tire, jack, and lug wrench.

A firearm is nothing but life insurance and it’s the only policy that can actually save your life.

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They’re starting to do that a lot in many places.

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The Millenials play video games to an extent. The guns are encoded in their games and that’s it. We’re dealing with the Participation Trophy generation now.

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Almost word for word the same point I try to make with non gunners.

Very well said!

Regards.

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It’s never easy but I always try to be the most reasonable and reasoned person in the room when we have such discussions.

I learned long ago you’ll never win anyone over to your side of an argument by insulting or antagonizing them and with few exceptions I find most of the anti gunners to at least be open to facts and therefore persuadable as long as it doesn’t become an emotionally charged debate.

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I to just filled out a similar questionaire, but here in Florida it is illegal for a health care provider to ask any question verbally or in writing related to having or owning firearms.

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I am a firearms instructor and was just recently certified as a USCCA Instructor. So you might guess that I own a lot of firearms. But you would be wrong. I actually do not own a single firearm. That’s right – not a single handgun, not a single shotgun, not a single rifle. So now, you’re looking a little puzzled – wondering why I’d be a firearms instructor for the last 20 years and not own a single firearm.

A few years ago, I found a wonderful attorney in Austin, TX whose specialty it is to create NFA trusts. If you ever wanted to purchase a silencer so you don’t go deaf being at the range all the time, then you might want to set up a NFA trust as it greatly reduces the hassle in purchasing one. (In many places in Europe, silencers are required to protect hearing, but here in the U.S., they are treated as some kind of furtive accesssory that lets you kill people in total silence. TV makes it look that way, but I defy you to put a round through a “silenced” firearm that I can’t hear 50 yards away. Politicians and media are idiots on this subject.)

Anyway, I created a NFA trust and transferred every firearm that I owned into that trust. This also means that no executor of my will ever has to deal with the disposition of my firearms. They belong to that trust and I have made some of my children members of that trust. And later they can add their children to the trust, so that these firearms owned by the trust can be used by future generations but will always be owned by the trust.

So if I had been at your doctor, I could honestly have answered that I did NOT own any firearms (because they are owned by a trust). I’m sure the doctor and insurance company would assume that I was one of the sheeple that didn’t want anything to do with firearms even though I have access to more than 30 of them.

It wasn’t expensive to set one up. And the advantages are worth it:

  • Be able to transfer the use of firearms to future generations without going through your will or probate court.
  • Make it easier to apply for specialized equipment like silencers or automatic fire devices (which I don’t have)
  • Enable you to give an honest LEGAL answer that you do not own any firearms

Then, you can pick your doctor based on their medical expertise rather than how much they invade your privacy. After all, isn’t a digital rectal exam for prostate problems already enough of an invasion to your privacy?

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An excellent example of using the system to defeat the system!

Kudos.

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So when you get a new firearm, do you buy it and transfer it to the trust? Or does the trust buy it? In MO, private party sales dont require background checks, so does that mean transferring to the trust would be done like a person to person sale?

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My doctor is fine. The HMO is fine. This was the Feds and their form. Since it was Medicare and they were paying I was handed the form.

I have no problem with the HMO. Been with them for 46 years. Most highly rated HMO in Medicare Senior Advantage plans. My doc is great. She will refer me to a specialist easily.

Just spent 3 days in the hospital with pneumonia. They got me out of that (my doc said I was close to the long term dirt nap) and it didn’t cost me a cent.

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I think it should be the .30-06 form. That would be funny.

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With Red Flag laws now in place it would be easy for a doctor to put you on a watch list. This question shouldn’t be asked at all. They are already trying to turn gun ownership into a medical issue by calling gun violance an epidemic. Nose to the wind for sure!

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Don’t answer or find a different physician. This subject was addressed some years past (forget what site) when the forms were first brought to life by doctors. If God forbid, anything should happen concerning firearms and defending your family, the answer you give will rear it’s ugly head in court and it WILL work against you, especially as Harvery1 stated with Red Flag Laws. I’ve read in the past how attorney’s have used those answers against a person using a firearm in self defense. JMHO.

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I haven’t come across any questions like that and if I did I would put a question mark on it and when the doctor asked why I had done that, I would just say I was confused as I don’t know how that affects my sleep apnea as that’s why I’m here.

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My only comment is to understand that if you served in the military, the lw states that your guns can be taken from you if you have mental defect or a disease that someone feels makes you incapable of perfect firearms control. The question can be a backdoor to confiscation. Without ever touching mental state. Especially with veterans. Be careful :thinking:

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Many of the proposed “Reasonable Gun Safety Regulations” would require passing a highly intrusive mental health screening with frequent reevaluations as a prerequisite for firearms ownership.

This would basically allow for a rubber stamped denial by bureaucrats to remove your ability to keep and bear.

Hard to believe we’d ever get to this point in the US but alas, we’re there.

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BATFE is prohibited from retaining gun ownership information, but your doctor is not. Your medical records are open to government inspection. With red flag laws popping up all over, what’s to stop the government from matching gun ownership to depression? They matched Social Security benefits and separate fiduciaries to gun ownership and everyone in social security that had someone else pick up their checks was suddenly on a list.
I would just say that, “I don’t feel I’m in any danger, what’s the next question?”

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