Derek Chauvin stabbed

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I have no idea what the MSM pushes as I watch literally 0 of it.

I do know what I know from looking at the facts, knowing the incarceration numbers ans % of population vs all other countries, and having been employed by a police department as well as interning at one in the course of my criminal justice degree.

We have too many people incarcerated and do not offer the bare minimum of safety that we should be for those that are. I am not in any way stating there is too little safety ‘because of this case’, this is just one of untold countless examples that if it weren’t for being a well known person, nobody would even know about.

The main problem I have is that almost everybody including here seems delighted by the general lack of safety in prison…even though we also admit people who don’t even belong in prison to begin with are subjected to it (remember the recent Matt Hoover example?)

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This is exactly correct. Given that many people are often wrongfully incarcerated there is an added reason to maintain a safe environment with our prisons and jails.

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I meant to add Happy Birthday to that message! So Happy Birthday!

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Ambiguous article. They should have provided data to back-up their claim. The DEA, as I provided, has a stated lethal dosage, though, like alcohol, it might be possible to live even after taking an amount that would kill the majority of people. Nonetheless, pressing on the side of the neck cannot asphyxiate anyone. Furthermore, a call for an ambulance occurred 36 seconds after they removed him from the police car. He was resisting arrest even after he was on the ground.

The officers did not kill him. Drugs and his poor health did, the police just happened to be there. It’s like people that die in the hospital due to whatever conditions they are dying of. The staff didn’t kill they, either, they just are there.

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That is not what the jury found. And not what the Medical officer said in his report, or his sworn testimony.

The ambiguity of the article is a product of the ambiguity of the question “what is a lethal dose of fentanyl?”
I did not say that pressing on the side of the neck could cause asphyxiation. That is not what the jury ruled on. They ruled on whether it was Chauvin’s actions that were ultimately responsible for his death. Base on the evidence (of which they certainly saw more than you or I) and the sworn testimonies of several experts, they found Chauvin was guilty on that charge. The Supreme Court found no reason to hear his case and denied it without comment.

Yes, Floyd was resisting arrest. But after at time it was clear that he was not, and did not need to have a neck restraint applied. The police department found that Chauvin violated policy neck restraint.

You can have your opinion. But there is little reason to think Chauvin was railroaded or the jury’s verdict was unreasonable.

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True, not little reason, but many good reasons as the ME report, video and reality show. Watching the video would be a good start; it has a lot of verifiable information in it.

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As I’ve said multiple times. I’ve read the ME report, not selectively. And watched the video.
There are no good reasons to think Chauvin was railroaded. He had sound counsel. They did a good job. They just had a suite of bad facts. The direct testimony of the Medical Examiner who wrote the autopsy disagrees with your reading of his report. This ought to give you pause in your declarations about his report. Which, I must again point out, the jury had access to.

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My reading the report? I posted what it stated. Secondly, it is impossible to asphyxiate someone by pressing on the side of the neck. You can post your opinion as often as you want, it doesn’t change facts.

Was he convicted? Yes. Do I agree with it and was the trial fair? As you stated yourself, certain facts were not brought up in trial that should have exonerated him - and we know why, they were afraid of more rioting. They put these officers on trial and ensured conviction out of fear (my opinion, but based on facts that were we were made aware of after the fact).

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Do you think the ME stated that he died by asphyxiation?

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“My reading the report?”
“reading” in my last post is used as a synonym for “interpretation.”
Sorry for any confusion.

“You can post your opinion as often as you want, it doesn’t change facts.” You are also stating your opinion and not laying out unassailable facts.

No where did I say Floyd died of asphyxiation. And neither did the states’ ME. He didn’t say it in his report, and he did not say it on the stand. IN fact he disagreed with the family commissioned autopsy doctors that came to that conclusion. The ME argued that Chauvin’s actions (putting this in my words not his) prevented Floyds cardiovascular/respiratory system from paying his oxygen debt.
That is not my opinion. That is the ME’s opinion. I invite you to go read his testimony.

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Something is wrong with SpongeBob’s popcorn.
I think.

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Again, I posted what it stated, not my “interpretation”. Have a good evening.

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Why are people incarcerated?

They have trampled on someone’s civil rights. Why do you believe they should be afforded the same “safety” as people who haven’t? They have been put there to serve time for their crimes which they committed. Is the correction facility supposed to be crime free? Understand I know there is white collar and innocent folks that got the raw end. Hell, look at Andy. Point is they should not be afforded luxuries that we do not have, because of the people in the penal system. Let them live in the jungle they tried to create.

BTW,
“They” want him 'taken out" before he is released.

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From here: https://corrections.utah.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Inmate-Orientation-Handbook-Master.docx.pdf

“DEAR INCARCERATED INDIVIDUAL,
AS A DEPARTMENT OUR PRIORITIES ARE TO PROVIDE A SAFE AND SECURE
ENVIRONMENT FOR THOSE INCARCERATED AND OUR STAFF. OUR MISSION IS
TO HELP YOU BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE COMMUNITY UPON RELEASE.”

And All they need to do is to comply with the stuff on pages 6, 7 & 8…

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If my father in law gave his daughter, my wife, one of his guns…whose civil rights would be getting trampled? Both are legal firearm owners with valid carry licenses issued by their state of residence…but they would be felons if one gave a firearm to the other

Whose civil rights were trampled? Hypothetically of course

Which is to say I disagree very strongly with the assertion that only people who trampled someone elses’ rights are in prison.

Do you believe Matt Hoover belongs in prison?

Not being disarmed and forced into a situation where you are stabbed, raped, or killed while defenseless isn’t really a “luxury” and certainly isn’t a “luxury we do not have”

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Simple solution, arm the inmates. Now we all have the luxury.

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Man charged with stabbing Derek Chauvin 22 times in prison: DOJ

An inmate at FCI Tucson has been charged with allegedly stabbing Derek Chauvin, the former Minneapolis police officer convicted of killing George Floyd, according to the Justice Department.

Chauvin was allegedly stabbed 22 times by 52-year-old John Turscak on Nov. 24.

Turscak was charged with attempted murder after he allegedly used a knife he crafted to stab him.

MORE: Former police officer Derek Chauvin stabbed in federal prison, sources say

Chauvin was not named in the complaint and only appears as “DC,” but a law enforcement source confirmed he was the one who was attacked.

Turscak allegedly approached Chauvin while he was in the law library and stabbed him. He allegedly told officers that if they hadn’t responded so quickly he would’ve killed him.

However, after he waived his Miranda rights, he said something different, officials said.

“At that time, TURSCAK denied wanting to kill D.C. However, TURSCAK stated that he had been thinking about assaulting D.C. for approximately one month because D.C. is a high-profile inmate. TURSCAK stated he saw an opportunity to assault D.C. in the law library,” the complaint says. “Turscak stated that his attack of D.C. on Black Friday was symbolic with the Black Lives Matter movement and the Mexican Mafia criminal organization. D.C. received emergency medical treatment for his injuries at a local hospital.”

Chauvin was listed in stable condition in the days after the stabbing and officials said he would recover.

Turscak pleaded guilty to racketeering and conspiring to kill a gang rival after previously working as an FBI informant against the Mexican Mafia organization, according to The Los Angeles Times. He was sentenced to 30 years in prison in 2001.

Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison, who led the prosecution of Chauvin on state charges, said in a statement after the stabbing that he was “sad to hear that Derek Chauvin was the target of violence.”

“He was duly convicted of his crimes and, like any incarcerated individual, he should be able to serve his sentence without fear of retaliation or violence,” Ellison said.

Chauvin has been serving a state and federal sentence at FCI Tucson in the death of Floyd, a Black man who died while in police custody on May 25, 2020.

Floyd’s death triggered a string of racial reckoning in the country and months of protests across the country.

ABC News’ Pierre Thomas and Alexander Mallin contributed to this report.

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Liz Collin: Timing of attack on Chauvin ‘very suspicious.
The Fall of Minneapolis’ producer Liz Collin reacts to a former FBI informant’s alleged attempt to kill the former police officer on ‘Jesse Watters Primetime.’

Liz Collin: Timing of attack on Chauvin ‘very suspicious’ | Watch (msn.com)

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“[R]acial reckoning” and “protests”? Wow. Too bad that reporter did not experience some of that firsthand. What a f’n schmuck.

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