Cop had fentanyl blown in her face

There isn’t a complete solution only a partial one. My own personal belief is that when we allowed a certain group to push god (Jesus) out of our schools, government and society in general is when it started to become what it is today. I know others will disagree. As a Christian, we believe the human race has fallen from the grace of god and we sin. It’s our nature and it won’t change until we return to the grace of god.

The love of money and using ppl is born within us. Until that changes nothing else will.

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Omg!!! That stuff is a Threat!

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Yes there are those of us that see through it all. I say Amen to your last note

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Yeah, it’s always “overblown” until it happens to the one stating, it’s “overblown.”

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My mistake. I didn’t watch this video before posting thinking it was the news report I saw. Didn’t realize it was a reaction video. I agree with you.

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It is a death penalty eligible case for traffickers or at least for Oxycodone/Oxycontin iirc.

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We’ve had somebody shoot up heroin in our bathroom before, they came out pale, and walked 10 steps before collapsing on the floor, my coworker did chest compressions, and the PD narcan him.

I’d say be careful of this stuff. It’s not something to mess around with.

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We need common sense fentanyl laws. Maybe posting more fentanyl free zone signs? How about a 7-day waiting period to buy fentanyl?

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So, there is a counter position here…the one of individual Rights and Liberties and the opinion that the government shouldn’t get to dictate what an adult gets to choose to put into their bodies.

I know it’s a messy thing to discuss when it’s a lethal substance, but if the dealer is honest and accurate about what they are providing, and they are providing it to an adult who is making that personal choice…

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Well, it stands to reason that if the drug itself is illegal, or being illegally sold or distributed, then it’s illegal wherever it goes, and with whomever sells it, buys it, or consumes it. I don’t see the fuzzy math here. If something is illegal, if it’s kept in the confines of your own home, is no longer illegal?

You just proved to a poster here on another thread just not long ago that keeping a firearm locked in his glove box while going to the Post Office was illegal; you provided a source that states such. Which is plain, that regardless of anyone knowing about it, it’s still illegal. What happened to individual rights here? Who knew? It wasn’t bothering anybody. He’s an adult. It’s his own business. He made a personal choice. He’s authorized to make adult decisions, as well as carry a firearm. But obviously that doesn’t count, right? Why not? Would the fact that it’s illegal have anything to do with it? I apologize, I should take this back to that thread and argue the point. My bad.

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Charlie Daniels had the right solution, "Take them rascals out in the swamp, put them on their knees and tie em to a stump, let the bugs and the snakes and the alligators do the rest

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You believe the dealer tells users that it will/can kill them?

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In utopian theory, maybe. But the problem is when the government allows/de-criminalizes/legalizes something, it always takes a piece in the way of taxes. So “dealers” will always look for a way to make more money by getting around the law. If it’s not government regulation they’re getting around, then it’s something else like cutting drugs with adulterants. The “industry” is inherently dishonest.

Look at the whole legal cannabis situation. Has legalizing it eliminated the black market — underground growers, distributors, sellers? Of course not.

There’s a pretty big IF in “if the dealer is honest.”

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Remember how cigarettes were once marketed?

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No “X” signs? Maybe we can give samples to a few folks who don’t seem to think that it is a problem.

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I’m not sure what you are asking.

Clearly fentanyl is illegal. I apologize if you took what I posted as claiming it was not.

No, I don’t agree with the law that makes it illegal to have a gun in the post office parking lot. But that is the law, and I believe people should know what the law is.

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I believe the users know that, and if they don’t, they didn’t do their due diligence

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Local church offers Narcan to the public.
Personally, I’m leaning more towards Darwin on this one.

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Your comment was about the dealer, not the users. Sometimes I get the impression you do not want an honest debate, as you like to twist words around, rather than debate the idea presented. @David237’s point is quite clear, but rather than address his comment, you act as if you do not understand his point. Then side-step it by stating that, Fentanyl is illegal - not at all what his post was about. You completely avoided addressing his point by acting as if you do not understand.

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I believe people should be aware of what the law is, which is why I shared resources to support the point that locking your gun in your car in the post office parking lot is currently illegal.

If fentanyl wasn’t illegal (because it’s not the government’s job to tell adults what they can and cannot put into their body), why would dealing it be illegal and warrant a death sentence?

I do not see how these two things are in opposition

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