You are looking into your mirror. You canât comprehend that the world isnât some Socialist utopia. Not everything is pretty and it can get down right ugly.
I regularly attend gun shows as a volunteer for a gun rights group. As such I get to talk to lots of people of all races, socio-economic levels, etc. Blacks at these events are typically right of center and have left or were never on the democratic plantation - words they use. Many also express their pride in Southern culture and have no issues with the Confederate flag. These are issues they raise to me. Several have shown me those flags on their firearms and clothes. I am still a Yankee at heart, so that flag only has the meaning to me that I have previously stated, but I do understand the heritage and can understand their point of view. They also laugh at the notion that they are too stupid to get ID and have no issue with the voter ID law that is currently in our state.
So let me get this straight: you are basing your beliefs on people at a gun show. So you see this as a true representation of the overall demographic of the U.S.? Seriously, you do not see a problem with this. @Dave17 I am talking about the average person here. I am sure, just like with any issue, you can find people to support any belief you want, but itâs just like the guy on the soapbox saying the world is going to end. Guess what? Someday he will be right; the world will end. Everyone else knows it is not next Tuesday. They are living in the real world everyone else is. It is what the numbers support about this flag or others I have mentioned.
I agree and have never said anything like this. I have, however, thought it puts an unreasonable burden on people of lesser means to get a passport. If they wish this to be one of the requirements, it should be free or at least a hell of a lot cheaper. Not sure what mine cost when I bought it, but I bought three at the time, and I was like, âWow, thatâs a car payment.â
At the gun shows, I stop at all those booths and sign whatever petition they have. In saying this, I have been to a multitude of shows, and I have never seen a âsave the whalesâ booth. Just saying.
it is not a requirement, it is just a proof of US citizenship. Most people donât have passports, regardless of means, but they are not prohibitively expensive, currently $130, much less than getting carry perrmits/licenses in some states. I just renewed mine in the beginning of the year.
Obviously people at gun shows do not represent the general public as a whole, just like people in my neighborhood, people that vote or any other group cannot represent the general public as a whole. I used it as an example that even blacks can view the Confederate flag in a positive light. I assume you would not call them white supremacists. You certainly have issues with logic and reason.
However, people that attend gun shows are average people, and a large cross-section of the population. In Virginia many people own firearms, even those on the left, They even attend gun shows. They are the unfriendly ones who avoid eye contact and conversation.
As a representative of a gun rights organization, my experience at gun shows is vastly different than yours. My job is to interact with people and discuss things with them, mostly on what our organization is doing to protect our rights, but people ask questions not just about gun laws, and they typically offer personal information, too. So I learn a lot about people in general.
I am sure there are, but this is not the norm. When discussing things, I like to deal in the realm of social norms. You seem to confuse this, as I do not believe you. This is not the case. It is just that I do not cater to the fringe. You simply need to look up the numbers that support what I am speaking to.
This is the case everywhere. You are right here stating the perception of people, just like I was with the different flags.
You will find this to be true in more rural areas. They realize weapons are tools, not something in schools. Sadly, 50% of people now live in cities; they do not have the same experience with weapons as those in rural settings. This is why I am such a proponent of education. Why I bring new people all the time to the range. To expose them to something other than what the media wants everyone to believe. So they will give up their rights for processed safety.
Most donât have passports, just like carry permits. Sure, $130 isnât much for me or you, but for some it is a lot of money. Remember these people also depend on public transportation to get things done. Now in big cities this is readily available. This is not the case for everyone. Now, where I usually donât deal with the fringe. In this case, I believe everyone that is a citizen should have the ability to vote, just like owning weapons. Any obstacle in the way of this is a problem.
I got the little star on my license long before it was required just to make travel easier. There needs to be a way to make this something the DMV can do like that. Also, it should be a holiday to make it easier for everyone to vote.
This is exactly why it is worthless to even converse with you. You twist intellectual discourse. Sorry, but once again you are in error. You do realize you do not represent anything close to normal.
This is a bold-faced lie, so please back it up. Show me where you get this information, and pulling it out of your butthole doesnât count.
Let me lay some more truth on you for you to digest.
Millions of people who identify as liberal or left-leaning own firearms across the United States. While national surveys show a consistent partisan gap in ownership rates, current data indicates that approximately 20% to 41% of Democrats live in gun-owning households, and this number has increased in recent years.
Try reality, where the rest of us live. I know you wonât fit in, but it will not hurt you either.
So, it isnât the case everywhere - 20% is not many. Even within a single post you contradict yourself, and you claim to to the smart one. Also I stated previously, âIn Virginia many people own firearms, even those on the left, They even attend gun shows.â So your âLet me lay some more truth on you for you to digest,â concerning even those on the Left own firearms, I had already stated is true. Can you be any more dense? Probably, you never disappoint in how far deep you can dive.
Canât believe you guys are still âdebatingâ this. The confedrate flag is a white supremist symbol. Chrtistian Nationalism and MAGA is the new KKK. End of story.
ActuallyâŠit isâŠa flag. You may hate it, but many see the real meaning and value, and just like your kind wonât control our speech, you wonât control what we like/want or not. Keep trying though. It is a useful life.
âThe Pirate Flagâ was a specific type of Union patriotic cover (envelope) produced during the American Civil War, featuring a modified Confederate flag design. It was not an official flag used by the Confederacy, but rather an anti-Confederate, pro-Union item from the 1860s that labeled the Southern leadership as pirates.
Design: The design featured a Confederate flag with 8 stars in the blue section and red/white bars, often containing the names âJeff. Davisâ and âA.H. Stephensâ on the stripes.
Context: It was a satirical or political print intended to mock the Confederacy, suggesting they were âpiratesâ for defying federal law.
Rarity: It is believed that only a few examples of this original union envelope still exist.
Confederate âBlack Flagâ Usage
In May 1861, reports indicated some Confederate privateers used a âblack flagâ to symbolize that âno quarterâ would be given (meaning no mercy would be shown to Union enemies).
This was described at the time as âThe South Under the Black Flagâ or âThe Apotheosis Of Piracyâ.
Modern Interpretations
Rebel Pirate Flag: Modern, stylized flags exist that combine the Confederate battle flag (usually a square flag of the Army of Northern Virginia) with traditional skull and crossbones imagery.
Calico Jack Flag: Sometimes, modern vendors confuse or combine items, displaying red pirate flags (such as Calico Jackâs) alongside Confederate merchandise.
SoâŠis this okay? Bad? Racist slave owning pirates?
As Iâve told you before, you can repeat this as often as youâd like, it does not make it true. In fact, I wish you would yell this as loudly as you can, in-person, in public, and with a megaphone. Record it and post it on YouTube, TikTok, or wherever else.
Something else that you seem to falsely believe is that repeating this actually offends anyone. It doesnât, well, except for possibly your parents.
What repeating this does do is fully and clearly display your own prejudices, your own bigoted beliefs and views, and your own hatred for anyone who disagrees with you for any reason. Every time you speak, you show your ass.
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Sir for the post of the season lol 
Brother Sir we have trolls 
and they donât think lol 
. Argue with us on a pro.2.A. Training community 
God Gun & Guts !! And they.abubjeck to our God Given Rights .!!! Itâs no Different then me goin in a Gay Bar and tellin them . They better buy insurance kaz Trying to Party Like that will kill ya lol 
Love Bobby Jean and Debbie Ann Twofeathers. Sir ps time flys when youâre havin fun 
my Debbie Ann stays on da Fire extinguisher 
lol 
seriously not so funny . You .Do know . Women got. the right to vote Before . Indians .. and when native Indian peopleâs got the right . They had to Read and write English. & speak English !! Sorry I hadnât gave ya a Root Beer yet you are definitely a plus to the community Love Bobby Jean and Debbie Ann Twofeathers . Mam.