Brad does kind of have a point. You/they did get the government they voted for, hell they couldn’t even get enough votes to recall Gavin. I have had some pretty sweet employment offers in Cal. but I’ll be damned if I’ll give up my rights for a pay check.
Right. I wouldn’t like to be held hostage. The residents are fools to let it keep going, and the more outsiders they allow in…and allow to vote, the more it becomes self fulfilling.
Well, I believe these court cases are exactly part of how they are helping themselves, and us too. Remember that almost all gun control measures you see in your state, was probably first tried out in California. They also have the 9th circuit court that pretty much has, in the past, rubber stamped all unconstitutional gun control measures. The Supreme Court has finally put the kibosh on that. You’ll be seeing a lot more court cases coming out of California. The more unconstitutional measures that get turned over, in California or elsewhere, the more wins we’ll see across the nation.
Should they help themselves? Yes. However, it might be more difficult than just saying “help yourself”. The corruption is deep. It is not so easy to get rid of. Also, it might seem easy for some of us living in “freer” states to just say, “don’t like it, move.” That is also easier said than done.
Does California have a lot of problems? Absolutely, and I have no desire to excuse them. However every gun control measure in California might eventually affect us too. Those that don’t desire to assist in the fight against encroachments of the 2A are welcome to not do so. Nobody is forcing anyone. However, I believe that the fight for our constitutional rights is a fight for ALL of us.
“First they came for California, and I did not speak out because I did not live in California…
Then they came for …
When they came for me, there was no one left to speak for me.”
How strong is the movement to split California?
I have friends in the northern part of the state, and they can’t stand the way they’re ruled & dominated by southern California. They’ve had discussions for years (decades?) about splitting the state in two. This makes sense to me; the entire West Coast is represented by just 6 Senators, which is equal to the number of Senators representing the states on Lake Superior.
But I think the fear from the left, from what I can tell, is that splitting California would allow for more Republican representation from areas where they currently can’t compete. They’d love it if Texas left the Union, but they get rankled if you talk about splitting California. I don’t know if they’ll ever allow political diversity in California.
It’s not just a Northern vs Southern CA thing. It is really almost entirely an urban vs rural thing. I do a lot of work in SoCal and the people in the rural areas out there are fed up with all the drugs, crime and poor policies spilling out from the urban areas and impacting their lives.
California law requires new handguns to have a chamber load indicator, a magazine disconnect mechanism and microstamping capability.
“No handgun available in the world has all three of these features,” Carney, who was appointed by Republican President George W. Bush, said. “These regulations are having a devastating impact on Californians’ ability to acquire and use new, state-of-the-art handguns.”
AG Bonta will obviously appeal to the 9th Circuit. And thanks to Trump & McConnell (it’s hard to thank McConnell for much of anything, but…) appointing all those judges, we have a decent chance of things going our way. Hopefully we get the majority when this eventually goes en banc, because that will be the final say.
However, one thing I don’t like about it so far is that Carney ruled against these three requirements, but not against the mandatory drop testing or the fact that there’s a roster at all. That means that a roster will still remain, manufacturers still have to pay fees to keep firearms on that roster, and they will have to submit firearms for drop testing to “make sure they’re safe”, so we don’t hurt ourselves (“You’ll shoot your eye out kid!”). That opens the door to two problems. 1) Manufacturing companies aren’t going to pay the cost to have all of their handguns on the list. 2) The state will do everything they can to make things as slow and painful as possible to get handguns added to the list.
Hopefully that can get changed in the 9th Circuit if things go our way. As it is, a mfg could make 30 different models of a 1911, all with the same internals, but with different finishes, grip panels, sights, and other cosmetic features, and if they only submit one model for drop testing, that’s the only one we’re “allowed” to purchase. It’s still highly restrictive. But it’s a start. I hope the initial three judge panel upholds the injunction so we can at least get the ball rolling.