I like Nick Freitas, and Dan Crenshaw
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You could double your standard of living on half as much and get a great deal more enjoyment out of your lives in any of quite a few other states.
Certainly worth considering.
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Same situation here. The money is good and the grandkids are here. House is paid off. Ain’t no way mama is going to move away from her grandkids over something like gun rights. I know, no accounting for some folks, right?
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I worked 20 years for UPS so I know about the cost of living factor being a global corporation and having the ability to promote and work all over the country I’ve heard and received a lot of advice from some great mentors, as well as from family spread all over the country.
For now here is where we are, frankly I feel NY is a much worse state, I don’t even want to step foot anywhere in NY. It’s in the same boat as San Francisco, that city is horrible. I work in Telecom and used to go meet with clients in San Franciso, and the Silicone Valley in the lower bay from Palo Alto to San Jose. You can smell and sense the backwards SJW thinking in the air. I’m good with living in the High Sierras just above LA. If anything we’d move to Ventura County or Orange County within CA, as far as outside of CA it’d be AZ as that’s where most of our family that has moved has gone. My company is growing and we have offices spread all over the country.
With all that being said our grandkids are 2 and 3 and spend most of their days with us. So there it is. I’ll make money my quality of life is based around family nothing more and nothing less.
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Yup. My youngest son lives nearby and he and his wife just had a girl. My oldest son has two 13 year olds. They were here five days a week when toddlers. He bought 11 acres in AZ and is building a house. His plan is to move out of CA in 5 years after kids finish high school here and his wife has a nice retirement in the bag. Both my sons have CA concealed weapons permits, Our Sheriff believes in CCW for law abiding citizens. As far as Frisco…wife and I were at the Pier and ate at Bubba Gumps. As we walked back to the street we had a skinny male prostitute wearing nothing but a thong sashaying in front of us. Nuff Frisco for me, Never been back.
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Not to bring bad politics into this, but have you guys/gals been keeping up on what has been discussed during the democratic candidate debates these past two days about confiscating “assault weapons”? And BTW beware of Cory Booker from NJ. He will destroy our freedoms and bring in socialistic laws if he has half the chance.
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I was on vacation. I didnt watch the debates. I know all I need to know about those people. I keep my politics simple. I vote against anyone with a “D” behind their name and against anything that will raise my taxes.
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Exactly Michael; sums it up critically if you ask me. Nothing good political comes out of CA!
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I am a member of USCCA and a lifetime member of the NRA. I am also a disabled veteran. I watched the democratic debates. Their ideas scare the hell out of me. The sure make these ideas sound good ( this is the scary part). Free this and that. now anyone with half a brain can figure out that nothing in life is free and some one has to pay for these things. I know that you all are right, a fight is coming. The question is what kind of battle will be fought. We must be vigilant and involved!
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I’m glad I live in Indiana, and not New York. All my life I though if I live in New York, I would drive myself are walk out of that state and never look back. I just would not live in a Big City anywhere.
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They are following the lead of Washington State…right down to the language calling Carry Guard and the USCCA insurance “murder insurance”.
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Spending time with your grandchildren is priceless. I am blessed to have a granddaughter while I’m young enough to really enjoy her and seeing her grow. It would take more than red tape and gun laws (as annoying and wrong as they are) for me to move away from my family. I completely understand what you’re saying, @KenM. Keep on your representatives to change the laws for your grandchildren’s future.
Welcome, @DocGibson. I’m glad moving out of CA was an option for you. @Zee also moved out of CA and is happy she did.
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I’m 59 and since I was 12 my great uncle told me there will be another civil war in this country. I think he might be right if thinks don’t change. I live at side of Chicago In the suburbs. Give Illinois time and they will probably do the same. It’s time to move.
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Typical California, they think that the population should be made up of nothing but cowardly victim’s that are afraid of their own shadow’s and that as such should not be trusted to defend them selves from those that would victimize them. Because… Hey, we cant have the bad guy’s take responsibility for their action’s since they are the real victim’s.
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@dawn, Please keep us posted. Is the USCCA willing to fight AB1602 once Newsom writes this into law?
This will pass the senate without a doubt.
Thanks,
Isaac
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Unfortunately the USCCA hasn’t been around very long and has yet to build up a huge war chest like the NRA ILA so the folks at HQ are going to have to be very careful about picking and choosing their fights.
This would probably be a good one to be a part of since the NRA will certainly be bringing out their big guns but we’ll have to see.
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@Ted, Missouri isn’t full yet… come on down!
Stay out of the big cities - Kansas City and St. Louis are a mess - but anywhere Springfield or smaller is excellent. Very sensible ideas about both guns and knives here. Winters are better too.
We’d love to have you!.
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I’m thinking uscca coverage is not considered “liability” insurance. It is legal defense cost coverage for the LAWFUL use of force for self defense. A person would still be held liable for unlawful activity and would not be covered by the uscca. In no way could this be seen as "murder insurance "Am I looking at this correctly?
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@tinknocker it isn’t actually insurance. @dawn can give you more exact details.
The problem is it doesn’t matter if it is or isn’t insurance according to the states that are outlawing it… they declare it to be so, and it becomes so under law. They declare it illegal, and it becomes so under law.
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I have been asking and I do not have any sort of timeline.
As I’m sure you’ve seen, when lawyers and politicians are involved you never know how long it’s going to take 
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