Yes, we sorta do, it’s called the family unit, as Marcus Aurelius, describes certain virtues are instilled in us as children, that in turn becomes common sense, which then becomes a functioning society of well bred human beings. Learning, productive, inventive, not drug addicted, hypnotized zombies!
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That’s the thing, any rights we recognize are subject to abuse or mis-use.
I believe in the right to vote for citizens. Does that mean I trust all my fellow citizens to vote? Of course not. I think the vote is a very dangerous thing, and elected officials have probably killed more people through their decisions than any model of firearm that exists.
I believe in 1st Amendment rights for everybody. But there are a lot of people who do great harm with their words.
Few people really know their 4th and 5th amendment rights. They get abused due to their lack of training.
I know a lot of responsibility comes with the 2nd Amendment, but isn’t that true of any right that’s worth having? I’m more adamant about this than I used to be; we have to jealously protect the Bill of Rights. Once we allow them to be eroded, we won’t get them back.
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Yes, my comment about voting was not meant seriously as I stated we need to shelve it due to the “allowed” aspect, just as we need to shelve mandatory firearms training for the same reason. While I agree people - everyone, not only firearm owners - need to know firearm safety, making it mandatory is unacceptable.
The “family unit” must then be malfunctioning at a much higher rate now than in the past. I believe that is one of their means to control society, breakdown of the family structure. It seems to be working.
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It’s why I’m so infuriated, these are innocent kids. C’mon, it’s not funny anymore, never was. But for them to play a blame game and not know what the cause is, is a display of ineptitude unrealized in centuries!
I am unaware of any society in the history of human kind that killed it’s own children over FOOTWEAR!
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Very serious question, what do we do when Nancy tears it up on TV?
On an hourly basis it’s being eroded! It’s time we pondered a country without a Constitution! It’s the glue that binds us!
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Mandatory Training? Maybe. But in this case the guy is 100% in the wrong.
First, there was no threat, the threat was retreating thus No Threat existed when he fired his gun.
Second, We defend lives Not Stuff.
Third, HE IS RESPONSIBLE for every bullet that exits his firearm.
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I’m not surprised that some people in the gun industry would support ‘mandatory’ training, especially those that make their living providing such training.
The problem here with us is that most of us are generally good people with common sense and reasonable judgement. Lawmakers are not such people.
As long as it is a ‘right’ then it needs to stay a right. Want to make it a privilege bestowed upon you by the government after you’ve completed the required training and insurance and ring kissing? Work to repeal the 2nd Amendment and replace it with something that better satisfies your fantasy.
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There are many civilizations in history where children were sacrificed for one reason or another.
Then again, I’ve heard historians argue that this is usually an indicator that a civilization will collapse.
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Who is doing the training would be critical. It needs to be done by organizations and people with actual firearms experience. Not groups only interested in anti firearm propaganda and brainwashing.
And I do understand your position and don’t necessarily disagree with it. The 2A is the only amendment that specifically states it shall not be infringed. Maybe the anti gunners can pass a new constitutional amendment that allows for a training requirement to override the shall not be infringed part of the 2A? If they agree under penalty of law to stop violating the rest of the 2A they might even get support for the amendment from a fair number of right leaning folks.
At the moment any politician who votes for anti firearm, and other defensive tool restrictions is clearly violating their oath to defend the constitution. They should all face impeachment for those violations.
The only constitutionally legal way to pass gun restrictions is to amend the constitution.
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I believe in mandatory firearm training … it should start in the 4th grade and be repeated every 2 years till high school graduation MUST PASS TO BE ADVANCED TO NEXT GRADE AND TO GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL think of how much better shooters the gang bangers would be !
Since the gang bangers seem to spend most of their time shooting at each other it would be a lot nicer to see them hitting what they are aiming at instead of all the innocent bystanders they keep catching in the crossfire.
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This is an even more basic issue than training or the lack thereof. Last I knew, shoplifting was not a capital offense in this country. Why in the world anyone would shoot at a fleeing shoplifter is beyond me. Man needs to be charged and convicted,
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I agree to a certain extent but proper training would teach a person when it is legal to shoot, when it isn’t legal, and when you shouldn’t even if it is legal.
This guy obviously never got that education or slept through it. Of course common sense should have been enough to prevent this tragedy but it is less and less common these days.
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That, I believe, is the intent, and why he was arrested. However, it is California, and he will likely be released before his girlfriend has his baby (I am not saying he has one, just comparing timeframes).
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When I think of mandatory firearms training I think mandatory it be taught not learned though I think it would be helpful if more people had the training but it is everyone right not to have it.
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I agree with all your points. At high school level, shooting teams could be helpful, as well.
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But no out rage over trans training or CRT. It’s a sad state of affairs. We used to get out of school for elective religious class once a week, with parent consent. Hunter safety at the school 2 nights a week for 6 or 8 weeks. With parent consent. No outrage if you didn’t agree mom and dad did not consent. No hurt feeling or anything.
Parents have the choice (obligation) to educate their children.
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If we’re going to connect firearms training and the word mandatory in the same sentence, let’s just get it over with and make military service mandatory!
Wow! Did I just hit a nerve, if so, which nerve. Please qualify your response!
I’ll qualify my statement, it works in Israel!
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Equally as important is knowing, AND ABIDING, by the law. In every state I have lived in the owner broke multiple laws and in some would be tried for murder.
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I could get on board with mandatory military service if there was a guarantee that the kids of politicians and the wealthy wouldn’t be exempted or given cushy safe positions. I would also want a guarantee that the mandated troops would only be used to defend against clear and imminent threats to US and not for some politician’s power grab or perceived moral crusade.
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