I’ve had that question a time or two as well. The idea of pulling a loaded weapon out of the holster, unloading it, handing it to someone, reloading it and putting it back in the holster just isn’t real attractive to me.
The only time someone sees my firearm is at the range, in a photograph or I’m being attacked!
Show and tell, is so yesterday. Everyone I visit is on the same page, gun safety rule #5 never disarm! Concealed means concealed!
I vaguely seem to remember somewhere out west, ( in the ‘70’s ) Colorado, Nevada, Utah or California, seeing people disarming when entering a home in particular when alcohol, cards and poker chips were on the table. Coming from the east it seemed odd to see pistols lined up on the mantle above the fireplace. The only thing I disarmed, was my money! LOL
Hm, that’s interesting. Maybe it was a Western thing. I thought maybe it was a police thing, but I really don’t know. Like I said, it was never something I asked my guests to do, it was just something they did. I haven’t seen it done in years, but I don’t host many parties, these days.
A number of years ago, way before I had my permit, at a BBQ, some guy brought his antique ww2 luger. He had just gotten it.
He actually passed it to some guy he was sitting next to and he passed it around when some other guy wanted to check it out. He was quite excited about his purchase, understandably so, but there’s a time and place.
People got stupid quickly, passing it around so all sorts of cringe worthy things happened (aiming at people, finger on the trigger, muzzle sweeping, etc). Not sure whether any of these people even had a permit but they were not safe, not one of them.
A luger is a beautifully made weapon so can understand wanting to show it off but not at a picnic to people that you don’t know. Maybe privately but never to those that have no clue about firearms.
I got my wife and kids and left.
That experience stuck with me.
@Rem
I would have done the same thing and high tailed it out of there.
@Rem a few years back I was deer hunting with some friends. For one of the guys that was there it was his first time hunting. Sitting around the campfire one night, he pulled his pistol out to show everyone. He kept muzzling everyone around the fire. I told him to stop pointing it at me and he seemed to be offended by that and said he didn’t point it at me. I was irritated because in my opinion, even if someone doesn’t think they did, they obviously made me uncomfortable enough to say something, and they should respect that.
Fast forward a few months and he and some friends invited me to go on a camping trip with them. I told them I couldn’t make it. Well, on that trip the same guy ended up dropping his gun on the ground. When he retrieved it, he ended up shooting himself in the leg. I am glad I declined the offer to go on that trip.
Here in Az, carrying a gun (both concealed and open) is very common, but I have noticed that those who haven’t taken any training classes are very lax with firearms safety. I am a huge supporter of the 2A and our right to carry, but those people scare me. ![]()
I learned from my father at a very young age, as most in my area did. There were no “training classes” for firearm safety as young child. When one got old enough to hunt (14 years old where I lived), there were annual hunter safety courses that were required. I never took one, as I did not hunt. However, I understand that just like the other classes I took later in life, they did not cover anything that one did not already know.
I believe it is not the teaching, but using the acquired knowledge. Look at drivers on the road. When I was in school, decades ago, Driver’s Ed was not required then, but most took it because we were then allowed to drive sooner. In the past 3 decades, it has been a requirement. I dare say, I feel less safe on the roads today. That might just be only where I live, though. I strongly believe since the “pandemic” that locked everyone in their homes, and people did not drive, their driving skills have gotten far worse.
JOHNNYQ60 SIR I WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN THERE MY SAYING FOR THE DAY SIR, you can not buy stupid , IT COST TO MUCH , and it’s WORTHLESS ![]()
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After I posted yesterday I realize that I may have put everyone who has not taken firearms training, into the same box. That wasn’t my intention. I do realize that there are many people who have been taught firearm safety, handling, marksmanship, etc., by a parent, mentor, sibling, someone of influence in one’s life; and are completely safe and competent handling firearms. When I was young, my parents would not allow firearms in the house and wanted nothing to do with them (I wasn’t even allowed to watch the A-Team because my parents felt it was too violent…
). My best friend’s dad was a police officer with Phoenix PD, and ran the shooting range for a while. They would invite me to go shooting with them in the desert when they would go as a family. These outings were the only time I ever touched guns. His dad taught me how to shoot. Years later, when I was in the military I earned an “Excellent” rating on my pistol qualification. This was 100% attributed to my friend’s dad showing me how to shoot and handle firearms.
I guess a better way to put it is, those that are unwilling or feel they don’t need training tend to be more lax with firearms safety.
I see a lot of people who will put a gun on their hip and think they are safe, as if some kind of invisible force field surrounds them when they have a gun on. They are “self proclaimed” experts and think they don’t need any advice or training, because they saw how it is done in the movies and therefore they are good to go. Those are the people that scare me.
You are right about using acquired knowledge. Knowledge is power, but only if you use it. If you gain knowledge but never use or apply it, then it’s useless.
“That might just be only where I live, though. I strongly believe since the “pandemic” that locked everyone in their homes, and people did not drive, their driving skills have gotten far worse.”
Yes, this was very prevalent out here also. I actually had this exact same conversation with my wife after people stopped guarding their toilet paper stockpiles during lockdown and headed back out to the streets. It seemed as if some people forgot how to drive.
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I think ‘safety training’ comes in many forms.
If your parents expose their kids to fire arms and teach their kids how to shoot and be safe with them, it becomes second nature - much like saying ‘thank you’ and ‘please’.
To be taught by a responsible gun owning parent is ideal, imo.
I didnt grow up in the US so didnt enjoy that benefit.
My son carries so offered to teach me. He’s very thoughtful and careful but I did not want to learn any bad habits from him (come to find out that he didbt have any bad habits but i sid not know anything at that time). In this state, you need to follow an approved course to get a permit anyway.
For me, first learning in a class room from a solid instructor and then going to the range to practice. After a while, it becomes second mature.
We go shooting at least once a week a fun father son activity.
Thats what I’ve been suggesting the ‘gun curious’ do.
Everyone’s situation is different but that has worked for me.
Don102 I Got all the training I needed . When I was seven years old!! I shot out a 64 mustang window. !! And after I got . More than. A whipping. And got to work for that window !! Sir I do not believe that I ever got that window payed off!!! To this very day .!! Never point a gun at any thing . That is not worth your AZZ. This . IS NO JOKE.
MY O MAN . Seriously . NEVER PLAYED. And I got that BB gun back. When I was nine years old!! And . Back then you did not even get your boots wet !! Playing in a mud puddle.!! Was to much . I ASKED MY OMAN . WHY ARE YOU SO SERIOUS. !!! He SAID WHEN YOU GROW UP YOU WILL UNDERSTAND. I AM AS SERIOUS. AS A PERSON YOU WILL EVER MEET. And It starts with. BEING . BROUGHT UP. To do what you are told.!! There was no second time. !! If you never let .YOUR CHILDREN . LEARN. NEVER AIM. A.GUN.AT ANY THING THAT YOU . CAN NOT PAY THE PRICE FOR. . What I am saying is that window . Was cheap. After fifty. Years. .
JUST THAT LESSON. Never aim. . AT NOTHING YOU CAN NOT AFFORD.
THAT WINDOW WAS PRICELESS.
Here’s a root beer .
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. Sadly a lot of children don’t have.A DADDY. I had one till ,9 years old. My azz still can feel the love he had for me. To this day I still walk around mud puddles and I never aim. My gun. At any thing that I can not afford. Bobby Jean.![]()
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Mike 164 THATS JUST . Not . KOOL AT ALL . Just tell them to each their own. Take the bullets out
THAT DANGEROUS. No ONE CAN HELP YOU AFTER THAT IF YOU DONT GET LED POISONING . UN load your edc and show me. Great training . Woohoo
here’s a root beer
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Great post. I imagine many of us nationwide experience this.
Until I bolt or weld down a safe, I opted for a heavier stronger steel cord/safe, if I place it carefully I can do it all within — inside, more discreet while sitting.
Other times, I set my firearm inside but covered by something, ie … hat, scarf; Then I get out, open the safe, and lock it in, without ever having to unholster from the outside.
Had to do it today.
In the extreme rare event I’m seen, I personally don’t worry — as to me it’s not brandishing. But I’d be sure to either park somewhere else and or keep a low profile, or help ensure I don’t get broken into. Know the building’s policy on CCW storing in a locked car, but “beware” when checking.
Burdo if I need to leave my tools in my truck I have a hidden steel box that is bolted to the floor and I can get to it without having to get out of my bucket seat and . I TAKE IT OUT WHILE I AM DRIVING AND PUT IT UP BEFORE I GET TO WHERE I AM GOING AND I HAVE TENTED WINDOWS. It locks when shut and it has a remote control that you hit the button and it opens so it doesn’t require keys and it is as simple as opening my console and it goes from the dash to the back seat so my long tool is . THEIR . It’s a great setup for . Me. I think that sweet lady was killed because the illegal criminal . Stole the weapon out of a company vehicle . ? Here’s ya a root beer
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Cool. Most excellent set up dear Bobbyjean. My sympathies to the lady and her family in that story.
Burdo it was a federal agents vehicle and she was on the pier with her dad . And he shot her with the gun the agent left in his vehicle . Every one knows about this he was here illegally . KATE. Steinle. Was HER NAME.
AND HE GOT FOUND NOT GUILTY . To bad. I . Was not there . He would never went to COURT. California. Was where he killed her. And he was found not guilty WTF. Love Bobby Jean and Debbie ann ![]()
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