Everyone here was new to firearms, at some point. 
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I have a quick access safe cable locked under the passenger seat for situations where I have to disarm. I can fairly discreetly lean into the back seat and place my pistol into it. Since my car is my office I also usually have a spare water bottle, some snacks and a jacket etc in the back seat. So if anyone is around to see I make a minor show of pulling one of those items from the back and using them before exiting the car in case anyone was wondering what I was up to.
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I’m no lawyer but I think brandishing has to do with intent , like if you flash someone and say something to them in an aggressive manner yeah it can be considered brandishing. But you moving It off your person can not be considered that. If you point at someone not too bad if you point a knife, bad but pointing a gun at someone can imply intent to do bodily harm. I don’t dis arm not even in a bank I’m only there to conduct business and leave, I don’t see myself getting into altercations with people armed society is a polite society.
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Utah Law:
Effective 5/14/2019
76-10-506. Threatening with or using dangerous weapon in fight or quarrel.
(1) As used in this section:
(a) “Dangerous weapon” means an item that in the manner of its use or intended use is capable of causing death or serious bodily injury. The following factors shall be used in determining whether an item, object, or thing is a dangerous weapon:
(i) the character of the instrument, object, or thing;
(ii) the character of the wound produced, if any; and
(iii) the manner in which the instrument, object, or thing was exhibited or used.
(b) “Threatening manner” does not include:
(i) the possession of a dangerous weapon, whether visible or concealed, without additional behavior which is threatening; or
(ii) informing another of the actor’s possession of a deadly weapon to prevent what the actor reasonably perceives as a possible use of unlawful force by the other and the actor is not engaged in any activity described in Subsection 76-2-402(3)(a).
(2) Except as otherwise provided in Section 76-2-402 and for an individual described in Section 76-10-503, an individual who, in the presence of two or more individuals, and not amounting to a violation of Section 76-5-103, draws or exhibits a dangerous weapon in an angry and threatening manner or unlawfully uses a dangerous weapon in a fight or quarrel is guilty of a class A misdemeanor.
(3) This section does not apply to an individual who, reasonably believing the action to be necessary in compliance with Section 76-2-402, with purpose to prevent another’s use of unlawful force:
(a) threatens the use of a dangerous weapon; or
(b) draws or exhibits a dangerous weapon.
(4) This section does not apply to an individual listed in Subsections 76-10-523(1)(a) through (f) in performance of the individual’s duties.
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The Supreme Court, in NYSRPA v. Brusen ,severely narrowed “sensitive” places to court houses, police stations, public schools and polling places. All other places are out of their realm. I’ve been sending videos to my Senator in the Unicameral here in Nebraska…
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Well said. However, you should also be aware of your rights, and guard them in the case of unlikely and undesirable situation.
Example: at one point my employee handbook suggested the company has the right to search my office desk, my person, and my car parked on company property. Of course, they cannot lay hands on you or invade your dwelling (car).
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Good point! The company I currently work for has a line in the handbook about not allowing weapons on the premises. They are not particularly heavy-handed with rules but I don’t want to wake up sleeping dogs by asking too many questions like “can I lock it in my car?”, “Is the parking lot part of the premises”, etc.
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Also, dont disclose your CC to coworkers, on or off company premises.
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That boat might have sailed, caught fire, and sank at sea:
we noticed each other while shooting at the range over lunch one day.
There are other holders where I work. They are all responsible low key CC people.
Good advice - thanks!
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It can be problematic depending on how you carry. I simply remove the firearm from The holster while I’m still in my car after taking a quick look around for situational awareness. I secure the firearm inside the vehicle and leave my holster on.
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Experienced that.
When I have to lock in the vehicle, I try extra hard not to cause any attention, being calm and quick about it. I try to avoid having to do so, following the law. Sometimes if I know I’ll need to lock it up, before I leave, I’ll select a particular model over another.
Lots of good tips/suggestions from the group. Good post.
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I’ve since decided to leave my holster on and take it off while inside. I’ll keep my spare magazine on me too. That’s not a weapon. Nobody will see it so nobody needs to freak out.
I’ve gotten used to carrying at 5 o’clock so open the back door. flip the back seat down, open the safe and draw it out while still leaning in. I usually have a bag in my trunk so fish that out - people probably think I’m retrieving my bag. I do the same when leaving. It took me a bit of practice to reholster it safely and quickly but I can do it now.
No point unloading the weapon - that’s just one more thing that can go wrong, taking the magazine out and sling-shooting the round out. The weapon remains loaded but safe.
One day, while the +1 round jumped out and fell onto the driveway, it rolled under the car. So I had to get on my knees and get it. I’m not as limber as I used to be. A young co worker noticed my struggle and asked what I was looking for and whether she could help, starting to look. "Oh, don’t bother - just some change fell out of my pocket… ". No point waking her up to it. Long story short: I don’t unload anymore.
I’ve done it practically in front of people at work, while they are walking in and out and they missed the event. It also helps that the back windows of my car are dark-tinted.
Still don’t like leaving a weapon in the car - much rather just keep it on me.
Thanks so much for all your well-thought-out comments, guys - it means a lot.
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My work policy say no but my work policy does not provide protection against the errant criminal who could give a damn if the sign says no glocks allowed in building I will post a pic of the sign it clearly states a circle with a hash through it and a pictograph of what appears to be a glock , the Glocks I own are all safe queens. I don’t carry a glock when I’m out and about. I carry a famed 2011 with two 16 round magazines with hollow points usually what ever rounds the cops use
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I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND I AND KEEPING MY MEMBERSHIP 
I AM JUST GOING TO GET A USCCA COIN TO DAVID, 3.27 and GET BACK TO TRAINING AND LURN THE SHUT UP I HAVE OVER SHEARED 
THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME I DELETED MY ENTIRE TRANNING APP AND HAVE TO GET MY SISTER TO HELP ME FIX MY STUPIDITY ON THE ENTERNET THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND FOR THE RESPECT YOU HAVE , AWAYS SHOWED ME FROM MY HART NOT MY BIG MOUTH SIR:bangbang: AMEN Bobby Jean
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And I did not disrespect you with that stupid bang bang sorry sir Bobby
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That would mean I better stay out of Utah that sounds like two black belts IS A LOSS AL READY 
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Not to steal this topic, but I can recall when it was considered courteous to clear your sidearm when entering someone’s house as a guest. It was actually a fairly normal thing to see. People would enter my house, unholster and clear their weapons, and set them up high where the kids couldn’t reach them. It was an automatic thing, like removing your hat when coming inside. I never asked anyone to do this, it was just a common practice.
When they left, they’d retrieve their sidearms and load their mags, then holster before going outside. Any nosy neighbors would have never known they were armed.
Does anyone else remember when this was normal? Does anyone still practice this, or has it gone completely extinct?
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@Ouade5
Gotta admit I’ve never done that, except in other countries. BUT there you were basically saying you’re responsible for my safety and security.
Maybe everyone just knew being armed in my house was the expectation not the exception. And I would have probably stared in disbelief and asked, “why the hell are you disaming?”
Maybe it was just a standard expectation; many times I honestly didn’t know, or care, if they were CC.
Q: was this a “we’re gonna be drinking” thing? That’s different.
When I was at others homes, being CC, I never asked the host/hostess if they wanted me to disarm. But I wasn’t drinking alcohol, if I was, I went un CC.
Maybe I commited a social fupah in my ignorance. If I had been ask to disarm, given my line of work at the time, I would have declined, bid my ah-doo’s, and left.
Good question though, I’m very curious…
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Never heard of it before honestly.
Seems like extra risks for seemingly no reward
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Good question regarding disarming or asking whether to disarm…
Few people know I CC.
For me, it is easier to not wake people up to that fact. It is very little of their business and shouldn’t make much difference what I do.
Some of the very few that have noticed I CC feel they have to tell me that one shouldn’t even own a fire arm.
I don’t even entertain getting into an argument with them because it you get nowhere. It isn’t like perspectives are charged.
One person wanted to see my weapon, which I do not allow. I told her to follow a safety class and to meet me at the range one day.
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