An example of why calling 911 isn't sufficient

From a Durham, NC TV station website - https://www.wral.com/durham-victim-four-times-i-dialed-911-they-never-answered/19820453/

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Wow, and this is why we need to train and protect our own. :roll_eyes:

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An example of why should you own a Gun.

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I’ve got a friend who said the police failed to show up to assault with a deadly weapon. He also claims a 9-1-1 operator told him this…

“A detective will call you tomorrow pending investigation…Good-luck! Your on your own!”

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Just think, this is just the beginning of the defund the police… Wonder if one’s wanting the police defunded will ever get the big picture…

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Yep, and Durham has bought into the ‘defund’ movement. A ‘defund’ message was left painted on the street in front of police headquarters for months. Wonder why we’re having trouble with police retention and hiring? Wonder why gang related shootings have been going up dramatically? Wonder why our black female police chief left for greener pastures after a very short tenure? I am a liberal and like Durham, but I am also a realist and don’t rely on squad cars coming to my rescue.

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This is not new.

Relying on the government for defense against anything except for foreign invaders (unless they try to walk across the border, it seems) is a false hope.

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In my area of our great country, we’ve been told it’s up to the individual officers if they want to uphold the law or even go on a call for help. (Officers Preference)
We’ve been told many times also that the officers couldn’t find our address.
Be Very Vigilant, that’s all I can say.

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Certainly they can lean on these court rulings to say “Not my job…” and I’m sure some do, but around here it seems it’s the other way around. When a serious threat is called in they show up in armored cars carrying AR’s. SWAT, Tac Teams and line officers line the streets, gun in hand.

I really wish people would quit posting Warren v DC. This is normally taken out of context and I can tell you that LEO’s do not study and follow this ruling. I was already a LEO when this ruling came out and we did not care. We still did our jobs to the best of our ability. I worked near DC and we were always busy and when a call came in where someone was in trouble we busted our asses to get there. No officer ever in my long career said: Well thanks to Warren v DC I do not have to care or get involved. Officers want to stop crime and lock up criminals. Even in the defund the police movement officers still hate scumbag criminals. That said. After all my years on the street, and ALL were on the street, I advocate fully that all citizens arm themselves and to train with said firearms. And to be ready to protect you and your family and LE can clean up the mess when they arrive. Sometimes arriving can happen in seconds and sometime minutes in true emergencies but minutes can be too long when your life is in jeopardy. Always be prepared.

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Twice I’ve gotten a “please hold…” message when calling 911.

I’ve gotten better results calling the front desk number of my local pd! I keep their number on speed dial, hasn’t failed yet! It’s usually an officer who picks up, and they get right down to business.

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Part of the issue with the 911 system is it funnels all calls to a few operators. With Covid and the rise in crime there is no wonder it is overloaded.

Even if everything goes perfectly when calling 911 for help, how long would it take for help to arrive?

We have to be prepared to be the 1st responders for our families for both protection and also emergency care.

Stay safe.

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Lest we never forget: LEO’s are NEVER the first responders, but rather always the second responders. Because of that, I have planned accordingly.

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Very inaccurate statement here.

When we saw a suspicious luxury car in front of our house with paper plates, my mother suggested calling 911. There was no emergency, so I called the Sheriff. This was after a young guy had knocked on our front door, who I assumed was a solicitor. That same guy went into the car and just stood there, his arm waving around at one point. After about a minute with a deputy on the phone, 3 guys opened the doors to that car and ran up the driveway. The first sheriff finally arrived 14 minutes later. I had already deterred the would be home invaders with my shotgun a long time ago. I never thought it would take the sheriffs that long to arrive. My mother was so adamant on always calling 911, never considering that it might be unreliable and even unreasonable as the first thing to do. That day we learned what it really means that citizens are often the first and only responders to threats.

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Investigated as a burglary my ass.
This is absolutely a home invasion.

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Maybe they’ll get the puncture.

This has been, I believe the standard for decades. The “rule” is they are working for “the public at large”. And have no “obligation to individuals”… the cops I know don’t hold to that.
Having been close to law enforcement in my county for almost 25 years the vast majority of cops are “called” to do what they do. They continually put their own lives on the line to protect the public, they continually go above and beyond what their ‘job description’ is. Of course there are bad apples in any barrel but the majority will go to the wall to answer the call.
Living in close proximity to Albuquerque (my state borders NM) night after night cops go to the wall under circumstances that most Americans would shudder at. Many have been wounded and killed in the line of duty. The only physical difference between what the cop does and what the soldier in combat does…is if he’s lucky to survive the day, he can go home at night.
Our cops have been pushed to the edge with the leftist demorats and their ugly agendas…a year of destruction, murder, looting, burning while the demorat ‘governors’ trashed the cops…until THEY were endangered.
More and more cops are being denigrated, attacked, I watched a ‘news’ report video showing a cop trying to keep traffic moving in a war zone deliberately hit at high speed and thrown what looked to be over 30 ft. … remember how many cops were assassinated when comrade Obama occupied our White House? Two just sitting in their squad trying to eat lunch!
Before dissing our cops pay attention to the garbage that get’s thrown at them on a daily basis and ask yourself if YOU would put up with it.

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@EODK9Trainer, I’m not sure how my statement is “very inaccurate.” In fact, my statement is based directly on what my local sheriff told me, verbatim. Bad Guy breaks into my house at 0-dark thirty. Unless a LEO is sitting in my house, they simply aren’t the first responder. I am. My response will likely be to place 11 rounds of jacketed hollow point rounds as accurately as I can into the aforementioned Bad Guy. It may be to fill their sinus cavities and corneas with pepper spray before exiting the house. Even in the unlikely event I were to choose to dial 911 first, I am still the first responder. What am I missing?

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Paul,

I get what you are saying here but this is what I was responding to: “LEO’s are NEVER the first responders,” Taken as written it makes it sounds like LEO’s may arrive after rescue or something. With that said. Careful what you write in anything to include so called private gun pages. One of my best friends is an attorney and former prosecutor of 20 years and lawyers scour pages looking for comments they may be able to use against us in civil cases and so on. The “11 rounds” is something we all understand but a good attorney can possibly turn against you in a civil or criminal case. We always use the force necessary to stop the threat. Can’t get much cleaner than that.

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