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Ammon Bundy Is All Alone

The anti-government militia leader can’t make sense of his allies’ support for ICE violence.

By Jacob Stern

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February 1, 2026, 7:30 AM ET

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Not so long ago, Ammon Bundy was the most famous right-wing militia leader in America. His two armed standoffs with federal agents had made him the face of the Patriot Movement: a loose assemblage of anti-government extremists, Second Amendment maximalists, and more than a few white nationalists. Even some mainstream elements of the Republican Party embraced him as a modern folk hero. But Bundy’s criticism of the Trump administration’s immigration crackdown now threatens to make him a pariah within his own community.

In November, Bundy self-published a long essay titled “The Stranger,” in which he labeled the Trump administration’s treatment of undocumented immigrants a “moral failure.” “To call such people criminals for lacking official permission” to be in the country, he wrote, “is to forget the moral law of God, the historical truth of our own founding, and the Constitutional ideals that continue to define justice.” On a recent livestream following the killing of Renee Good in Minnesota, Bundy told his audience that ICE’s conduct “clearly looks like tyranny.” If the government threatened his family, he said, he would fight back by whatever means necessary.

I spoke with Bundy a few hours after federal immigration agents shot and killed Alex Pretti. “It’s sickening to me,” he told me over the phone, “just to see the parallels of history repeating itself.” (In his November essay, he had compared the administration’s treatment of immigrants to the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II.) He added, “When it comes to the more humanitarian side of it, I think the left has it much more correct than the nationalist right.”

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Bundy, to be clear, has not gone woke. He believes that Democrats, whom he calls “communist-anarchists,” are “spurred by wickedness.” (So, he says, are Republicans, whom he calls “nationalists.”) He believes that government has no business providing virtually any social services. He believes that homosexuality is a sin. And don’t ask him about vaccination requirements.

But perhaps Bundy’s central belief is the inviolability of individual liberty, and in this he has remained fairly consistent over the years. During the first Trump presidency, Bundy took heat from some of his followers for opposing the administration’s anti-immigration agenda, and when I first spoke with him a few years ago, he reiterated those views. If he has become something of an outcast, that testifies less to a transformation in his thinking than to a broader realignment on the far right. Bundy, in his relative ideological fixity, offers a stable reference point against which to measure that shift.

In 2014, Bundy and his father, Cliven, marshaled about 1,000 militiamen and other supporters to repel government agents trying to impound their cattle in Bunkerville, Nevada. (Twenty years earlier, in an effort to protect the endangered Mojave desert tortoise, the Bureau of Land Management had ordered Cliven Bundy to remove his cattle from federal lands; he ignored the directive.) The standoff turned the Bundys into the first family of the Patriot Movement and darlings of conservative media. They might not have been quite at the Republican Party’s ideological core, but they weren’t very far away from it. They were avatars of a conservative belief in the importance of individual liberty and the righteousness of resistance—even armed resistance, if necessary—to government tyranny. In a Fox News poll asking thousands of viewers whether they were “Team Cliven Bundy or Team Federal Government,” 97 percent answered “team Cliven.” Several Republican U.S. Senators publicly defended the family. Sean Hannity repeatedly had Cliven on his show.

Two years later, Ammon led a six-week occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon that left one rancher dead, shot down by police officers after a backwoods car chase. From 2022 to 2023, he was embroiled in a slow-motion standoff with local and state law enforcement in Idaho stemming from his refusal to pay a $52 million judgment against him in a high-profile defamation case.

By that point, the breadth of Bundy’s support had substantially diminished. His exploits no longer garnered the attention of Fox News and its mainstream conservative viewership. And now, even some of his greatest supporters—people whom he and his family inspired to become militants in the first place—seem, in an ideological sense, to have deserted him. After Good was shot and killed, I reached out to a number of those who stood with Bundy at Bunkerville, at Malheur, or afterward. None of them would condemn ICE, and some expressed enthusiastic support.

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When I asked Nick Ramlow, a Montana militant and member of Bundy’s People’s Rights Network, about Good’s killing, he referred me to a recent Supreme Court opinion and stressed that “a jury will make a determination of liability when a civil suit is brought.” In other words, Ramlow, who once told a sheriff that he “better keep his nose clean” because Ramlow had “a bigger army than he does,” didn’t want to comment one way or the other until the courts weighed in.

Eric Parker, who in 2014 made a name for himself by training a semiautomatic rifle on federal agents at Bundy Ranch and who is now the head of the Real Three Percenters of Idaho, had nothing but praise for the agent who killed Good. “I mostly think it’s important to note how impressive it was to get those first two shots off in under a second,” he told me, adding that Good’s wife should be criminally charged (for what, he did not say). Lee Rice, a longtime People’s Rights member and steadfast Bundy supporter who participated in the Oregon standoff, told me when I first met him in 2023 that he didn’t “believe in the government running roughshod over you.” When I spoke with him recently about ICE’s tactics in Minnesota, he said, “I’m supportive of what’s going on, because we need to get these clowns out of here.” Good deserved her fate, he added, because she’d sided with undocumented immigrants.

Some of those in Bundy’s orbit have responded favorably to his essay and video, and a few have changed their mind about ICE enforcement since the killing of Pretti, which the Trump administration has tried to justify by pointing out that Pretti was carrying a gun. “I feel completely different about this one,” Parker texted me after seeing the video of Pretti’s death. Unlike in the case of Good, he didn’t see any self-defense rationale for the shooting. “No detainment just fighting. Disarmed him then shot him.”

But, on the whole, Bundy’s former allies seem to remain solidly in favor of the masked, armed federal agents. Just the other day, Bundy told me, he had a contentious conversation with a militant who had joined him at Malheur. Bundy had always thought that he and his supporters stood for a coherent set of Christian-libertarian principles that had united them against federal power. “We agreed that there’s certain rights that a person has that they’re born with. Everybody has them equally, not just in the United States,” he said. “But on this topic they are willing to completely abandon that principle.”

Bundy finds this ideological betrayal totally baffling. He would start to say something—“I can’t understand how they think …” or “They just can’t, they can’t …”—only to abandon the thought mid-sentence. “It doesn’t make sense to me,” he told me finally. “It’s scary, actually.”

And so Ammon Bundy is politically adrift. He certainly sees no home for himself on the “communist-anarchist” left. Nor does he identify anymore with the “nationalist” right and its authoritarian tendencies. The party that embraced him and the people who supported him have, by and large, left him behind.

He feels, he told me, “a little bit alone.”

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Name one sane person who agrees with everything any party does/says. Every one of us picks our poison of the moment and accepts what comes with it. One of my favorite complaints is “so many words” when people can get to the point…and then frequently discover that they either don’t have one, or don’t agree with all of those words they wrote/said. 80%+ waste…same as everything.

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Probably. But there are enough similarities between the experiences of two groups from distinctly different camps that Bundy’s thoughts have relevance here.

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It is the moral violence that stops the immoral violence. I can’t make sense of what he can’t make sense of.

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Not my quote. It’s from the article.

In the second paragraph, he expresses disappointment about the failure to apply moral law and constitutional ideals universally.

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Yes I disagree. I see following the law in this case the moral thing to do. We are the government and we pay LE to enforce the law. Without the rule of law we live like animals. It makes no sense to me to live like animals. What is your opinion?

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That morality works both ways, both in following the law and how that law is applied. But when the enforcement begins to look like tyranny, which Bundy suggests ICE’s actions do, he would fight back by whatever means necessary. There is also the morality of human dignity, applying it to everyone, even those who may have broken the law.

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That is a good point. I think we should love and respect everyone. I don’t love and respect everyone’s opinion. I don’t love and respect everyone’s actions. We are all human and we will always have disagreements. I pay taxes so I can be part of the government. Not everyone see it that way. To each his own.

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Just proves that normal, average Joe law-abiding citizens do NOT favor extremism.

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Agreed. The challenge is defining when behavior crosses the line into extremism. What is activism to one person may be seen as extremism to another.

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I may not totally agree with how ICE is doing their job but they are following the law and orders given to them. No matter what protest that involves violence and attacks on LEO is never acceptable.

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Interesting guy, I can say this he is a Constitutionalist and will side with the Constitution every time. He really should not be that surprised that those who followed him before are not onboard today. He was a lighting rod for those who opposed the Government of that time, not necessarily people who actually put the Constitution first.

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Where is the “Morality” in law enforcement? I dunno, maybe ask the pot smokers that are locked up for years, away from third families, away from their careers. They broke the law, got caught and get to pay the price. Thier kids cry on their birthday. ICE is enforcing laws, laws that are currently on the books. Some offenders get wrestled to the ground with Bubba kneeling on their neck. Some offende4s gut guns in their face. That is American law enforcement, no room for morality, only room for the letter of the law.

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Ammon Bundy and his ilk were illegally using BLM lands without ever paying the grazing fees, began development of BLM propery as if it were his, then forced a standoff when they were about to be evicted for doing so. Then he took it upon himself to start another standoff in Oregon over a pair of poacher/arsonists that had been released accidently from prison and had already agreed to return when Bundy arrived to piss all over everything. He had support for awhile, that went away when folks realized what kind of person he really was. Good riddance.

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Bundy was a sort of folk hero around here. He was everything a lot of us stood for. Then he pulled that stunt in the north west that didn’t make a lot of sense so a lot of us started looking at him like we look at the rest of these activist running around doing stuff just to get TV time.

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We all believe in individual liberty, that is part of what our country was founded on. However, as the adage states, one’s rights ends at the tip of the nose of the next person. To live in a civil society, we have laws to aid in that civility and protection of one’s rights and liberties. Our Constitution only grants the federal government certain authority and power, it does not give us anything.

We have immigration laws to keep our Nation, our Nation. Mass migration is an invasion. I do not consider arresting people that violate immigration law violence. If the rioters weren’t interfering and obstructing law enforcement, you would not see any “violence.” If you were present at these staged events, you’d have a better understanding of what these rioters are doing, aside from the few acts of violence that we see.

However, I do not see destruction of police vehicles, arson, spitting on police, throwing all sorts of things, urine, excrement, frozen bottles of water, etc., at police, blaring bull and car horns, shouting at police, rape whistles, etc., as peaceful protesting.

You want to see examples of peaceful protests, see what the VCDL does every year at Lobby Day. Hundreds, now thousands in the past 6 years, at times 10s of thousands, of armed citizens rallying for our RKBA. What you will not see at those events is police in para-military garb or riot gear, nor anyone attacking/confronting police, anything thrown at police, shouting at police; mace, tear gas; rape whistles; blaring bull horns and car horns, etc., etc. You will also find people thanking the police for being there and shaking their hands, and that the area is clean and looking better than before we got there.

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I entirely agree with your first paragraph.

Conversely, if federal agents were not enforcing the law in the manner that they are, there would be no protests. It’s not the enforcement they object to, it’s how it’s being done. There has been ample peaceful protest, an example being the recent event that drew tens of thousands of people. If I, myself, and tens of thousands of like minded people vehemently object to what our government is doing and feel our constitutional rights are being threatened or violated , but the courts have been ineffective and peaceful protest have been to no avail, what would my recourse be?

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You can’t possibly believe that. No one could. It is disingenuous.

With the way citizens are acting, constantly ramping up their actions and rhetoric, there aren’t a lot of choices other than leave them to their own devices…which is where we started. And that isn’t fair to the rest of the country.

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Say what you want about the Bundy’s but they never were convicted of any crime and they are still letting their cattle feed on BLM land without paying fees and the Government is ok with it. The Bundy’s are a prime example on what happens when the Federal Government tries to make an example out of someone in the courts. They went with the heaviest of charges, the Government did not do their due diligence and just assumed it was a slam dunk case, then they lost in the courts because of their incompetence. We are seeing this today with Pam Bondi and all the crap she is throwing at the courts in the hopes she can get a a big conviction when if she just went with lower charges she would probably win a court case or two.

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So arresting illegals is not a proper execution of their duties and authority? Can you provide an example where they were doing something other than their duty, until the rioters illegally began impeding and obstructing law enforcement?

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