My whole point is that if the consequence was higher people would hesitate long enough to think things through. This link tends to support my belief https://www.uakron.edu/economics/academics/senior-projects/2021/FunkNSeniorProjectSpring2021.pdf
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Valid. Often, attempting the murder itself carries a very real risk of being killed during the attemptâŠbut that doesnât seem to stop them either. How often do you point out that young males in cities, often gang related, are the ones murdering each other and skewing the overall statsâŠtheir peers are very often armed, there is often a legit change of being killed in âself defenseâ or in a reprisal action. ButâŠthey do it all the same because the risk of death is simply not an effective deterrent
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Imprisonment for an action defined by law (or those who write and pass laws) usually comes down to three inter-related rationales:
- Punishment/Retribution. Society should punish a perp for his/her act. This may or may not rest on the assumption that criminals will consider the potential consequences of their actions before they act.
- Protection/Public Safety. Society should imprison âcriminalsâ to take them out of circulation and protect society. But todayâs law abiding individual may be tomorrowâs criminal.
- Removal. Society should imprison politically unpopular individuals in order to purge them from society as they are believed to be bad for social order and will eventually commit some criminal act. (e.g., concentration camps, reservations, labor camps, etc).
The problem, as I see it, is that imprisonment often involves individuals who have substance abuse or mental health issues, and essentially, imprisonment boils down to imprisoning people for addiction or mental illness. Prisons donât do well those issues.
Here is another tidbit
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But every punishment has a two fold effect, the primary effect is to rehabilitate the criminal. Secondary effect is a deterrent for those that could easily go the route of the criminal.
In my opinion, it depends on where you live. America is so large I donât know if we can consider it one society. LA is so different from New York which is so different from countless small towns across the nation. There are hundreds of small towns in this country which are civil and thriving with low crime rates. DC and the bigger cities get all the attention but so much of what goes on there doesnât affect the rest of the population. In the city where I work, there are fights that break out on the streets and plenty of methheads. Then I drive out to my small town which is a great community of like-minded people and one of the best school systems Iâve seen. The biggest threat we face now is the deviant culture from DC spreading to all corners of the country. But as long as we can take a stand against the gender/sexual identity culture then we are doing pretty well.
I get the debate and itâs and interesting conversation for sure.
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I havenât seen any evidence that our criminal justice system is undertaking any effective measures to rehabilitate criminals.
Lock up criminals with a bunch of other violent criminals, release them back onto the streets, repeat until someone gets killed. Thatâs how the system seems designed to me.
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I personally think that urban and rural communities face quite a few threats far more serious than the current gender/sexual identity fad. The vast majority of people either know or will eventually figure out that using the original parts as designed is just the easier/more enjoyable way to go.
Getting people to fight over what they should or shouldnât do with their own parts and how someone should label someone else is just one of the many distractions being shoved down our throats to keep us from paying attention to the real threats our society faces.
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I did not mention rehabilitation as one of the purposes of incarceration because I doubt that it works in any meaningful way. For example, if you own a pistol brace or failed to return classified documents and are imprisoned as a result, what rehabilitation would take place? None. Imprisonment is simply punishment of political rivals.
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Iâm a firm believer that rehab doesnât work except for an extremely few things. Then only if they want to change.
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The modern justice system is nothing more than a revolving door, before the bleeding heart liberals it was a lot different, criminals were expected to do hard labor not sit on their ass watching TV all day.
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I donât have a problem making criminals contribute to society in some way during their incarceration. But I donât think that hard labor alone will rehabilitate the vast majority of folks.
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I think the bleeding hearts did some good which like most things was taken too far. There were and are some bad cops out there. I will say the revolving door crap has to stop and society needs to put hard criminals away for good. No out, donât pass go, youâre there until you die or put to death.
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This is where the Devils Island concept comes in. Criminals with multi page rap sheets donât deserve to be in civil society. Take them out of it and let them eat each other, literally if needed.
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Iâm not a big fan of laws like the three strikes rule where someone can get locked away for an incredibly long period for 3 relatively minor crimes.
But I think a 2 or 3 strikes rule for violent crimes makes a lot of sense. If you are convicted of harming or seriously threatening to harm innocent people on 2 or 3 occasions I think you deserve to be in jail for a very long time and at the very least not be let out until you can completely convince some well qualified people that you are no longer a threat to society. Maybe even the victims would have to agree to letting you out as well.
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Another pinnacle of civility
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Yes, flush D.C. entirely, and 7/8 flush the Left, and flush 1/3-1/2 the Right.
Now weâre getting somewhere. Instant karma needs to come back.
Serial criminals should be ended. Recidivism stops here. Eye for an Eye.
I loved the idea of Sheriff Arpaioâs jails. Make them bad enough that the criminals simply donât want to go back into one. Arizona was criminally quiet while he was in office.
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We have a lot of criminals who have found that life is easier in prison than on the streets. They have free libraries, free healthcare, free hots and cots, free TV, free weight rooms, dental care, law libraries, free internet, and free clothing.
Our justice system no longer punishes them for crimes, so they keep doing them.
That is just plain WRONG.
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Yup. Instead of a 3 Strikes law, modify it to â3 strikes and youâre hung.â
Serial crime is a horrible burden on all of society. End Recidivism.
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This is the effect of the bleeding heart liberal mentality, the criminal that breaks into a home and ends up killing the entire family. He is just misunderstood he just needs to be rehabilitated!
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