So I currently carry a Taurus g3c , but might upgrade soon, was looking into something with more stopping power, of Course looked at 45 first but looked at 10mm and saw that was just as powerful and smaller width wise. Recoil was about the same. I am I missing anything as to why you don’t see more 10mm? * believe it was a Paul Harrell video were he did the test between 45 and 10mm*
What form factor are you looking for? Does your preferred brand make one in 10mm?
Depending on where you live, you might see more, or less, 10mm, similar to the thread earlier on .357sig. Here in MT, you do see a bit of it, but we have big animals that will run you down and eat you too. Recoil is at least subjective to the shooter, and also dependent on what you are shooting it in. Have you ever shot a 10mm? As well, 10mm is fairly expensive, which is partly the reason you do not see it as much. Not quite a “boutique” round, and not far from it either.
So I have a Springfield xdm elite also. So it would probably be a Springfield. Recoil not to worried about 6’2 250. Granted the Springfield in 10mm I saw was a full-size carry don’t know if they have compact size 10. And guess I didn’t factor in ammo availability, barely can find 9mm.
10mm is spoken of a lot around here. I think most people here carry 9mm because of its shoot ability and effectiveness. There is always a lot of discussion between 9mm and 45, but those are probably the most shootable cartiges
I would like to get a 10mm, but I don’t really care to get another handgun caliber to keep up with.
To each his own. Go shoot many models with different calibers and pick the one that works best for you.
To paint with a broad brush, 10mm hasn’t been around nearly as long, and hasn’t been as widely adopted as other calibers. .45 has been used in service pistols for over a century, and was once the go-to for any armed force or police department. 9mm has the same advantage. Even if 10mm were “perfect,” it has a lot of catching up to do in terms of adoption.
Personally, we all have to choose what’s best for us. I generally carry a little .380 because it’s easy to conceal and I know I shoot well with it. I sometimes carry a 1911 because it’s thin and… well, mostly because it’s fun. There’s a lot of nostalgia involved with the M1911, I have no problems admitting that.
But I can tell you there’s a big difference between my .45 1911 and 10mm Glock 29. The Glock was fun to shoot for awhile, but I don’t want to conceal carry that big boy around inside my waistband, and I don’t need a pistol that kicks like a rifle.
If 10mm is for you, then you should carry 10mm. FWIW, it looks like 9mm will remain the ammo of choice for most of the Defense Department.
A little pricy but it’s a tight gun.
Actually thought about a 1911 but the whole hammer system seemed a little too complicated to me or maybe I was just over thinking it.
10mm 1911… Colt Delta Elite. They even started making them again.
As for Springfield, I have only ever seen them make a 10mm in a Full Size. In the past with ammo availability, the odd calibers were sort of spared. Not this time. Not even for rifle ammo. Our shelves here are still bare.
At your size, you are quite a bit bigger than I am. I carry full size guns Ah, that was another thread wasn’t it… darn it!
More selections. https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/category.cfm/sportsman/1911-pistols/of3/10-mm
Here is a little history of the 10mm. https://www.gunsandammo.com/editorial/a-history-of-the-10mm-auto/248500
Since that time in 1986, all ammunition has been improved and what round has the best stopping power has been the great debate for many years. In the end, the weapon is only as good as the owner. Last time I shot my son’s 357 snub with 357 magnum rounds, it just hurt! 5 rounds and that was enough. I can easily put 200+ 9mm down range and the only thing that hurts is my thumb from reloading.
When I first started as a deputy, we carried 9mm +P+. After a gunfight in Jeffersontown, Kentucky, where a guy was doped up and was hit over 40 times, nearly every department switched to .40 cal. Today, most departments give officers a choice of 9mm or 40 in Louisville. The stopping power is thought to be negligible.
The key, as said above, it is a question of what you can shoot well. I chose 9mm after retirement because ammo is pretty universally available (except during a pandemic); recoil is a little lighter making target reacquisition faster meaning you can get more rounds on target faster and mag capacity is generally higher on a 9mm than any larger rounds. Oh, and historically, 9mm is less expensive than anything but .22, again, except during a pandemic.
Thanks I guess the best thing to do would be to rent a 10mm at some point when things calm down and ammo is available to see if I like it. I am a decent shot with a 45 but didn’t fire more than 1 or 2 magazines, so hard to say how the recoil would after 5 magazines perhaps. ( granted I doubt I’m ever in a situation where I go through one magazine let alone 5)
The round that hits the target has the best stopping power.
Oops. You beat me to it.
I have a DW Razorback in 10mm that I love. If I’m traveling and one handgun will have to do double duty as CCW and field gun for the deep woods that’s the gun that tags along. A couple of mags of 155gr HPs and a few mags of 180gr hard casts and we now have choices!
XDM in 10mm, i don’t notice the difference in recoil between 10 and 45, 15+1 capacity is good enough for me and im big enough to conceal it while carrying owb. All in all i really like it.
I always wondered about that, I have never had the opportunity to test a 10mm pistol since I enjoy shooting a .45 so much.
A pistol small enough to carry in a Florida summer is to small to handle the kick of a 10mm. I tried it. It was punishing to fire so I didn’t practice with it.
To me the question has always been the cost of ammo. I have long been a fan of 357 revolvers and the 10 has an edge on that. The guns themselves seem more reasonable or at least more options than I had when only one company made a magnum power pistol. It is just that for EDC the 10 has the major flaw of being harder to bring back on target than a 9mm or even a 45. Under non pandemic conditions both the 9mm and 45 cost less to practice with.
But why aren’t 10 mm more popular? If the FBI study is to be believed they are harder to shoot for new trainees and people with smaller hands. (Not my words but theirs). People tend to want what the “professionals “ use.
I bought my first Colt Delta Elite back in the 1980s, so have been shooting 10mm since before the FBI “screwed up” the round. I’m only sort of joking about what the FBI did to it. The original 10mm loading, the Norma loading, is a super hot round that is not exactly pleasant to shoot even in a full size 1911 (i.e., the Delta Elite). Not only is it difficult to handle compared to either 9mm or .45, it lead to frame cracks. The Glock 20 was a bit more pleasant to shoot, but you did indeed need large hands for it. Now I had really gone with 10mm because the Delta Elite held one more round in the magazine then a 1911 in .45 ACP and I was shooting IPSC. This was the age of “Super Face”, where overloading .38 Super to make major sometimes lead to disaster. So I compromised and went with 10mm so I had one more round than a .45 and one less round than a .38 Super. This was also before extended magazines were allowed, just for completeness. The nice thing about 10mm was that I could download it to just make IPSC Major, and then it was a nice tame round IMHO. Later the FBI would come out with its loading, a lite 10mm load, that happened to be almost exactly IPSC Major. The thing is, you don’t need that big case for the FBI 10mm load and that begat the .40 S&W. It’s a lot easier to make compact guns in .40 S&W, so if I were going to carry something of that bullet diameter as an EDC I would go with .40 S&W over 10mm.
Now if you want to use hot, sorry norma(l), 10mm loads we are talking something else. But I just don’t see 10mm as an EDC firearm. I have used it as a home defense round at times, largely because I’m potentially as likely to suffer a bear home invasion as a human home invasion. But I can use a big heavy gun for that, which is not my preference for EDC.
Forgot to answer the other part of the question. When I bought the Delta Elite it was the only 10mm firearm available. Then came the Glock 20. But there was not an explosion of guns or ammo. Then the FBI put 10mm on the map. The FBI and the rest of law enforcement then shifted to .40 S&W and 10mm faded again. Now it has achieved something of a renaissance, but it is still a quirky niche round. The question for most people is why would you want it? In store bought ammunition you mostly don’t see anything other than the FBI ballistics, so you might as well go with .40 S&W. And factory ammunition is very expensive in 10mm. To really get the most out of 10mm you have to load your own. And going back to your carry question, you never want to carry reloads. Basically when you get away from 9mm and .45 ACP there is great fragmentation. So you have .40 S&W, .357 Sig, and 10mm competing for the same space. You could even throw .38 Super in that mix. So you need a really good reason to go with 10mm. Fun is a good reason, but again must be differentiated from what you want to carry.
IMO, 10mm options basically mean big and/or heavy compared to options for the smaller rounds. If you are a gov sized 1911 fan, it’s definitely an option. EA has some large heavy DA/SA models. I don’t know if it’s a typo, but Sig was listing their 10mm something like 10 oz more than their 45 model. SA has the full size, and Glock has the FS and subcompact, that is a little fatter than the G19 or 23.
IMO, the 180gr 950 fps FBI load (Federal HS… The ammo SA tested for their 10mm round count claim IIRC) is not the same as most options you’ll find when available. 180gr at 1150fps to 135gr at 1350fps might not be full blown 10mm, but I wouldn’t consider them the same as a 950fps round.
I like the 10mm, but for the size, weight, and locally available ammunition selection, I lean towards the 357 magnum. I had recently thought about carrying the 10mm, but with ammunition being hard to come by, I wouldn’t be able to run a couple hundred rounds of different brands to see how well each worked with my firearm… nor grab a couple hundred of rounds of whatever I found I liked. Right now I can’t even get a 20 round box of any of the auto and most revolver cartridges anywhere locally.