What Legal Questions/Concerns Do You Have About Carrying?

In NJ:

“Hollow-point and armor-piercing ammunition is prohibited.”

To go through IL carrying a firearm if you do not have an IL CCW:

(e) Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from transporting a concealed firearm within his or her vehicle in Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her vehicle and the non-resident:
(1) is not prohibited from owning or possessing a
firearm under federal law;
(2) is eligible to carry a firearm in public under
the laws of his or her state or territory of residence, as evidenced by the possession of a concealed carry license or permit issued by his or her state of residence, if applicable; and
(3) is not in possession of a license under this Act.
If the non-resident leaves his or her vehicle unattended, he or she shall store the firearm within a locked vehicle or locked container within the vehicle in accordance with subsection (b) of Section 65 of this Act.
(Source: P.A. 98-63, eff. 7-9-13; 98-600, eff. 12-6-13; 99-78, eff. 7-20-15.)

I’d suggest talking to an IL law enforcement officer or attorney for their specific interpretation of the law. They will have a better understanding of how those laws are applied.

Thank you Dawn for protecting my injured limp body (or was it just that you wanted to shoot the Sig).

:grin:

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Ok, so what if @DBrogue’s sig is a stolen firearm used in previous multimillion dollar jewelry heists? Still covered?

Lol! There are a million different variations to the scenario, and I won’t be able to give you a solid answer as there are at least 50 different versions of law that will be considered.

One thing to keep in mind is that most prosecutors will use the reasonable person test. What would a reasonable person do in this type of situation.

Thanks Dawn, I really didn’t want to give up my good looking evil twin for the jewelry heists.

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:You’ll have to read the statutes to be sure but I believe Illinois requires a lockbox.

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Unless it can be shown you had knowledge that the gun was unlawfully in your possession or that you knew he possessed it unlawfully you would have no criminal liability.

Possession of stolen property statutes all require your knowledge the item was stolen.

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You are correct, it has to be in a locked vehicle or locked container (makes me think of locking saddlebags on a motorcycle).

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Any lockable box you can secure inside the vehicle should suffice. You can easily use any lockable gun box with a short cable securing it underneath the seat and should be fine.

You definitely would not want to have it in plain view in the vehicle while you’re out of the vehicle boxed or not.

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In Illinois, they modified the “legal transportation” definition when ccw became legal. You can store a fully loaded magazine, in the same case as the gun, as long as the gun itself is unloaded. The “case” can be any latch able container. Including the console, or glove compartment, as long as you lock the vehicle. So, for all of you non-Illinois residents, you can safely and without worry travel through this state, with a pistole’ in the glove compartment or console, even without a ccw license, as long as there’s no ammo in the gun itself. With a ccw license, it can be on your person, as long as you don’t exit the vehicle. Sorry, my state sucks.

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So… my lockable jotto holster that is bolted to the truck floor, and which prevents removal of my firearm is legal for storage, as long as the firearm is unloaded?

Unfortunately, no. It has to be enclosed, and out of sight. But, even a portable shaving bag or something similar qualifies. I know, the Jotto would be more secure, but, Illinois lawmakers are not known for common sense.

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:thinking: wonder if I can just zip a bag over the Jotto…

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It was “fun” to travel through Illinois this last weekend on a motorcycle…

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