Weapon Lights

@Alexander63 Sorry, I missed Levi2 comment, but ya, looks like TLR-1HL is also another good choice pricewise but 1000 lumens would be the choice I would go for as far as blinding brightness, as opposed to lesser lumens.

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@Karacal might be right

It doesn’t have to be immediate, but those are your three and we all know the one you choose won’t be your last…pick one and start saving for the next. Same with the light, but don’t put the horse before the carriage.

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Sometimes the horse costs more. :grinning:
$500 RDS on a $400 pistol.

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I kind of need to put the horse before the carriage here because I’ll be buying an Enigma LB. That means I need to know which light I’ll be running to make sure it’s compatible with the gun I choose, as well as the holster, since the holster indexes on the weapon light instead of the gun. I’ve been doing a TON of research because of that. I think I’ll go with the TLR-1HL because it is compatible with the Enigma and will work on all three of my possible pistol choices.

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@Alexander63 Good choice on the Enigma, I’ll be looking into that setup also.

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:100:% this ^^^. That Sage Dynamics video explains it very well, but basically you can never have “enough” light. Any concerns about blinding yourself indoors, just learn how to use the light properly (its not hard).

The other thing that you want to consider besides lumens is candela. Lumens is the total amount of light emitted. Candela measures the amount of light that hits an area. The X300T (aka Turbo) has 650 lumens and 66k candela. That means it has a very focused “hotspot” and will throw a considerable distance. The X300U (aka Ultra) has 1000 lumens and 11k candela which means it has a diffuse hotspot and is going to give you more of a “flood” instead of throwing very far. The TLR-1HL is kinda between those two with 1000 lumens and 20k candela.

Which one you want is personal preference (close distance go Ultra or long distance go Turbo). If you were putting this on a rifle I’d say go Turbo, one a pistol either one is OK.

MrGunsNGear has a good video comparing the beam profiles of the Turbo vs Ultra vs TLR1-HL vs Modlite (which is not on your list).

@Karacal is correct in that Surefire is only USA made while Streamlight makes some stuff overseas and some in the USA (not sure how to tell which ones are made where). On top of that, Surefire has that brand name & reputation that costs more. They are pretty much the “de facto” pistol weapon light for duty use by LEO/MIL and that influences cost too. The TLR1-HL is also up there and has a really good reputation as well, especially at that price point. If money is not a concern, go surefire. If money is a concern (especially if mounting on 3 pistols :wink: ) then the TLR1-HL is a great choice.

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I love my wife

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That is what I like about my Nightstick, same footprint as the TLR-1.

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My gun light is a generic brand from Amazon that’s proven incredibly reliable over the past four years. 600 lumens is plenty bright to see everything for about 40-50 yards, but not so bright that you’ll damage your own sight unless you look directly into it — which is hopefully what an intruder would do. Definitely bright enough to stun someone and hopefully get them running.

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This is what I have on my 5.56 and I love it!

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Been a Surefire fan for decades. My wife and I both carry on our key ring a Surefire E2D LED Defender. You never know how much light you’ll need until you don’t have any!

Bedside companion!

In addition we each keep one of these in our nightstand.

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Personally, I don’t particularly like weapons mounted lights as it forces me to potentially point my weapon at non-threats just trying to see. Instead I carry an Olight Warrior Mini3 which is very bright (on brightest setting) and small enough to fit in my pocket.

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I don’t have a weapon mounted light on my EDC mostly for size and weight considerations. I have a separate flashlight for these situations.

I do have a WML on my home defense pistol though. This lets me free up a hand to grab my son and bring him to our safe area if I need to and gives me a two handed grip on my weapon if I need to use it. But I also keep a separate flashlight next to HD pistol for if I need to move around and clear the house. So I would say having both options is probably best if you are willing to deal with the extra bulk and expense.

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Same.

I do have an EDC pistol variation with a WML and compatible holster but I rarely carry it.

My home defense firearms do all have a WML.

I just don’t see a scenario where I am justified to draw my pistol…and yet I still need a light for target ID. If I don’t have that PID, I’m not drawing the gun, probably. Handheld light as needed.

In my own home though having a gun in my hand is a much lower threshold.

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Is 500 lumen/5,000 candela enough to effectively stun and blind an attacker? Unfortunately, I need to pick my weapon light and handgun at the same time to get the proper Enigma holster (Express vs. OS). I’ve narrowed it downg between getting a TLR-1 (1,000 lumen/20,000 candela or the TLR-7 (500 lumens/5,000 candela). If I get a TLR-1, I’ll most likely use a full-size handgun, whereas if I get a TLR-7, I’ll most likely use a compact. Again, the CZ, HK, and Walther PDP are all in the running for my EDC, compact or full-size. I will test them all out next week or the week after. Whatever feels better in my hand will be the brand of the pistol I choose, but the weapon light will determine whether I use a full-size or compact because I want the light to be flush or as close to flush as possible with the barrel.

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I run a Stream light TLR-9. I think it’s a 1000 lumens I e tested it and backsplash from the light didn’t affect me at all.

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But is 500 lumens and 5,000 candelas enough to blind an attacker?? Also, the TLR-9 is longer than I’d like. I want something flush to the barrel. Good to know that it works well for you though.

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Permanently blind them? No. But it’s definitely enough to stun them for a second or two, which could be the difference between life and death. Especially if it’s in the dark.

Is it enough for what you want? I think only you can answer that. We all know a flashlight nerd. Maybe see if he / she will be willing to show you some of his / hers, so you know about what you’re looking for.

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It’s going to sound like a bad idea, but I think testing is in order :thinking: :rofl: if you’re looking for the "bright enough to overload your senses " bright, i can tell you from accidental experience that 1000 will do it…

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There is the issue, the TLR-1 is going to stick out way past, depending on which pistol you end up with to keep the light near flush it will need to be the TLR-7, 7A, or 6

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