Virginia may be ground zero!

This is what we spun off:

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I… struggle to find words for this…

I can’t. I just can’t. This would be hysterically funny if this wasn’t from an elected official who is trying to trample on our 2A rights. I have never heard such a stream of lies and stupidity in one go.

I got the link to the video from the summary here at Daily Wire.

The link to the video is below, this is from a town hall yesterday I think.

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If what he is saying had any truth to it, the Democrats in Virginia would not have just defeated a bill sponsored by Republicans to increase the penalties for certain gun related crimes.

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Crazy ish that was spoken by Levine…

  • 1994 AWB was very effective
  • The bill distinguishes between guns that go like this (holds hands like he’s aiming a rifle) and guns that go like this (holds hands like he’s Rambo wielding an M60)
  • Mass shooters don’t like guns that go like this (holds hands like he’s aiming a rifle) because someone can knock the buttstock into your head. Deer don’t do this, Elk don’t do this
  • you can mow down an advancing army
  • The best weapons for self-defense in your home is a shotgun. Something something 40 pellets.
  • Feel free to write something on a card and tell me why i’m wrong
    Apparently, this town hall required people to submit questions/comments on A CARD which is then read and then Levine can take as much time as he wants (like this 7min+ rant of stupidities) to reply.
  • Those 1 or 2 secs saves lives (regarding forcing mass shooter to reload)
  • Weapons of War features like a pistol grip, flash suppressor (hides your location) or silencers…
  • suppressed gunshots dont sound like gunshots (I guess they have realized it’s not “silent”)
  • Deer hear a [suppressed] gunshot and run away no matter what. But people they don’t know that is and don’t run away
  • You’ve seen very few mass shooting with machine guns, because of the 1930s NFA
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  1. More gun control bills pass out of committee
  2. Action item: Let’s flood the phone lines at the General Assembly!
  3. More gun control bills pass out of committee
    On Friday the House Public Safety committee met to hear a series of gun-control bills. This type of hearing is normally done in subcommittee, but they skipped the subcommittee meeting.

Some of the bills duplicated or were similar to each other. Those bills were rolled together into one single bill. No pro-gun bills were heard and all the gun-control bills passed out of committee and are headed to the Floor.

Here are the seven gun-control bills that came out of committee. Bad votes are in red, bi-partisan votes are underlined. Not a single Democrat on the committee voted even once to support gun owners. Delegates Ronnie Campbell and Amanda Batten stood with gun owners 100%:

HB 2 , Plum, Universal Background Checks. It doesn’t even allow for the loaning of a gun, even among hunters, unless both parties stay right next to each other the entire time. Passed on party-line vote:

YEAS–Hope, Bourne, Plum, Kory, Lopez, Rasoul, Price, Levine, Carroll Foy, Helmer, Cole, J.G., Simonds, Jenkins–13.

NAYS–Wright, Robinson, Wilt, Fariss, Rush, Davis, Campbell, R.R., Coyner, Batten–9.

HB 9 , Bourne, requires reporting of a lost or stolen gun within 24 hours of the discovery of the loss or theft. This bill implies that the gun owner could be liable if the lost or stolen gun is used in a crime, unless it is reported within the 24-hours. That is a bad precedent. Passed by a vote of 15 to 7, with some Republicans supporting it:

YEAS–Hope, Bourne, Plum, Kory, Lopez, Rasoul, Price, Levine, Carroll Foy, Helmer, Cole, J.G., Simonds, Jenkins, Robinson, Coyner–15.

NAYS–Wright, Wilt, Fariss, Rush, Davis, Campbell, R.R., Batten–7.

HB 421 , Price, destroys the firearm preemption law, allowing localities to make confusing ordinances, resolutions, or motions that affect the possession, carrying, storage, or transport of firearms or ammunition. It passed on a party-line vote:

YEAS–Hope, Bourne, Plum, Kory, Lopez, Rasoul, Price, Levine, Carroll Foy, Helmer, Cole, J.G., Simonds, Jenkins–13.

NAYS–Wright, Robinson, Wilt, Fariss, Rush, Davis, Campbell, R.R., Coyner, Batten–9.

HB 1083 , Hayes, makes it a felony to leave a loaded, unsecured firearm where someone under 18 years old has access to it. Many home invasions have been stopped by someone under 18 using a firearm. Passed by a party-line vote:

YEAS–Hope, Bourne, Plum, Kory, Lopez, Rasoul, Price, Levine, Carroll Foy, Helmer, Cole, J.G., Simonds, Jenkins–13.

NAYS–Wright, Robinson, Wilt, Fariss, Rush, Davis, Campbell, R.R., Coyner, Batten–9.

HB 674 , Sullivan, Red Flag law. Sullivan claimed this bill will help prevents suicides. Baloney. It shreds the Constitution. Passed by a party-line vote:

YEAS–Hope, Bourne, Plum, Kory, Lopez, Rasoul, Price, Levine, Carroll Foy, Helmer, Cole, J.G., Simonds, Jenkins–13.

NAYS–Wright, Robinson, Wilt, Fariss, Rush, Davis, Campbell, R.R., Coyner, Batten–9.

HB 812 , Ward, One Handgun a Month. Worst of two bills that were rolled together. There is no exemption for CHP holders that the old law had. Passed on a party-line vote:

YEAS–Hope, Bourne, Plum, Kory, Lopez, Rasoul, Price, Levine, Carroll Foy, Helmer, Cole, J.G., Simonds, Jenkins–13.

NAYS–Wright, Robinson, Wilt, Fariss, Rush, Davis, Campbell, R.R., Coyner, Batten–9.

HB 1004 , Mullin, takes away a person’s guns even in his own home if there is a protective order out against him, setting up that person to be murdered by a vengeful spouse or other person. Mullins had a chip on his shoulder when discussing his bill and was called out for how he was addressing fellow committee members who questioned him on the bill. Passed on a 20 to 2 vote, with many Republicans voting for the bill:

YEAS–Hope, Bourne, Plum, Kory, Lopez, Rasoul, Price, Levine, Carroll Foy, Helmer, Cole, J.G., Simonds, Jenkins, Wright, Robinson, Wilt, Fariss, Rush, Davis, Coyner–20.

NAYS–Campbell, R.R., Batten–2.

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Do people still think there is not going to be shots fired over this?

I am not calling for it nor am I suggesting it.

I just dont see this staying peaceful anymore.

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@DBrogue I cam across a new Cam & Co with a good explanation of what we all should be doing to turn this tide back:

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It sounds great and I hope it goes in a peaceful direction BUT I still think someone some where is not going to agree to be arrested for doing nothing wrong other than owning a gun which is protected by the second amendment.

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@DBrogue Unfortunately, you are probably correct. If these laws are enacted, there will be problems. MSM will have a field day and those non-gun-owning Americans will turn toward more restrictive solutions regardless of Our Constitution . Hey most of Europe has strict gun-control…

The 2020 Richmond Rally probably surprised those same Americans. 30-40,000 people, many with firearms, rallied in peace. Zero violence. No MSM feeding frenzy. We were incorrectly labeled as “white supremacists.” I saw many diverse folks there. Maybe I missed it but no confederate flags. Well mannered concerned citizens that left the area in better shape than we found it. Those VCDL “Guns Save Lives” stickers didn’t stick very well, either.

I know the latter is the message I want to send. Peaceful people that respect the Constitution that are awake and ready to fight at the ballot box and in court to preserve every Americans rights.

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so… Ok. Most folks don’t know that Mark Levine was previously in California before moving to Virginia in 2001. @KenM may remember him from CA, I certainly do.

My personal favorite of all the idiotic and evil (and I don’t take those words lightly) things that Mr. Levine ever did was to argue AGAINST penalties for child porn on the basis that criminals who has less than 100 images of child porn on their computers should be exempt from major penalties “if its just for personal use”.

^^^ yep.

Read that again.

He argued that pedophiles who weren’t found to be trading images should be allowed to have up to 100 images of CHILD PORNOGRAPHY on their computers for personal use.

Not kidding. He said that. In a public hearing. :scream: :angry: :rage: :triumph: :face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

There is nothing, and I mean NOTHING, that Mark Levine is going to ever do that makes me see him as a decent human being. EVER.

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@Zee That is horrifying. Are you 100% sure it’s the same Mark Levine? And he held office there in CA?

The video I posted, as idiotic as it was, still had me wondering “are these people trying to do the right thing, but are too dumb to get out of their own way? or are these people actually evil?” If that is his stance on child porn, well I think I have my answer.

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He was a real piece of work as an attorney/activist here in CA, his recent ramblings on what the definition of an assault weapon is almost as special as he is.

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Yep @Harvey same guy. :rage:
I’m going with actually evil.

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This is a good article and names 4 Virginia State Senators that may be wavering on HB961, assault weapon ban. The current make up of the Senate is 21 democrats and 19 republicans and three of these four Senators voting against it would cause it to be defeated. The following is a list of these Senators, their district, where it is located, and their email address:

  1. John Edwards - District 21 - Roanoke - district21@senate.virginia.gov
  2. Chap Petersen - District 34 - Fairfax - district34@senate.virginia.gov
  3. Creigh Deeds - District 25 - Charlottesville - district25@senate.virginia.gov
  4. Lynward Lewis - Distirct 6 - Accomac -district06@senate.virginia.gov

With the exception of Fairfax, there are rural areas in all of these districts and, I would guess, a fair number of 2nd amendment advocates. If any members of our community live in one of these districts, I would encourage them to contact their senator and express dissatisfaction with the current situation in Richmond.

Keep in mind that there are only two rules in politics:

Rule 1 - Win the next election
Rule 2 - Do nothing that interferes with rule 1

We need to remind them that voting for this bill violates rule 2.

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I agree. The next election in VA is going to be EPIC if these bills all pass. Or we will see WV get dramatically larger!

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@MikeBKY I have been following the WV development. It seems that the counties in VA that wanted to switch to WV would have to coordinate if they hope to have the votes in the VA legislature to leave.

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The VA legislature may want to jump on board to get all the deplorables off of their voting rolls.

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@MikeBKY

There is actually a national political push by the Republicans for this. It’s why I don’t think that Virginia’s Democratic super majority would allow them to do this.

Virginia has passed or is in the process of passing a bill that would award ALL of it’s electoral college votes to whoever won the nation wide popular vote. Regardless of how the citizens of Virginia voted. So Virginia has a vested interest in keeping all of its population as they can award all of its electoral college points to the Democratic Party.

Of the last 3 President. Bush and Trump lost at least one popular vote. So it’s actually quite an insidious way for Virginia to ignore the will of it’s population and a way to nullify the Electoral College, as it stands.

Virginia’s Democratic super majority, from a purely political POV, is doing doing everything they can to reward the, Democratic Party on a national level, and trying to keep Virginia Democratic.

Virginian’s really need to mobilize, and get out and vote. Their Democratic super majority is doing everything they can to keep Virginia under Democratic Party control.

I know alot of the focus has been on 2nd Amendment, but their Democratic super majority is playing a long term game. I hope they are paying attention to other bills that their Democratic super majority are passing. The voters of Virginia are going to become irrelevant, on a National level, by what is being passed right now.

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