I might be wrong, but it is my understanding that some felons continue to orchestrate hits and other crimes from within prison walls. No proof of this, but not out of the realm of possibility.
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Is the argument that we should put people to death because they might talk to people on the outside who will commit crimes they wouldnât have committed otherwise?
Not really. You had said recidivism (crimes against the public) are 0 when they stay incarcerated.
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I think the argument is that what we are currently doing isnât working. What can we do to reduce crime?
I think DAâs carrying out their duties, with a focus on law enforcement would go a long way.
They are.
Since most donât count crimes committed within prison, and since they didnât get initially put in prison for a crime committed in prison recidivism IS zero if they remain incarcerated.
I will ask again, is the argument that we should execute people because they might communicate to someone on the outside who will commit crimes they otherwise wouldnât have?
Ahhh, NO.
That is a good question.
But I donât think executing people is an answer. No data we can find indicate it to be one.
There are things that can be done, I think, but it gets into partisan politics unfortunately.
Reducing firearm purchase, possession, and carry restrictions helps. Not prosecuting people who defend themselves from aggressors helps. Prosecuting those who do initiate violence helps. Prosecuting all who commit crimes in which there is a victim helps.
ButâŠwe know how some of those things are going right now
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It would certainly stop recurring crimes by the same dirtbag.
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We should stop burdening hard working tax payers with supporting a violent criminal sentenced to life or a POS who has bled the system with 20 felonies, incarceration, public defender, judges, prosecutors. I didnt sign up to pay for them to sit on death row for 20 years. Bring back the 1880 judicial system. This liberal BS isnât working. Stop protecting the criminals and start protecting our society.
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We will have to agree to disagree!
I might be missing somethingâŠbut I donât see any data in there claiming that having the death penalty reduces crime rates. Is that mentioned or claimed in that article?
Give me one good reason we need to drop anything other than a bomb!
The death penalty, doesnât work because, first of all âcareerâ criminals have no fear. Second the wait time is 30 years!
Itâs been the humane thing to do, we created the career criminal.
How many career criminals do you think would be stealing anything, with one arm. Second offense, lose the second arm!
Problem of theft solved!
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https://crim.sas.upenn.edu/fact-check/does-death-penalty-deter-crime
In fact, a committee of the National Research Council has concluded that existing studies are far too methodologically flawed to draw conclusions one way or another. Neither side can maintain that they have empirical support. In most years, most states execute no one, and that pattern seems to be on the rise. One cannot study the impact of executions when they are hardly ever imposed, and it is difficult to separate any impact of the death penalty from the large number of other factors that affect the amount and kinds of crime. The committeeâs conclusion about the claim that the death penalty deters is âcanât tell.â
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Thank you for verifying that there is no data indicating capital punishment has an effect on crime rates at present in the US. I often read/find/remember things without knowing where I found them lol
I happen to believe we should take out the trash!
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This broken judicial system is a money machine for lawyers. Why would any person, tried and found guilty in a court, sit on death row for years bleeding tax dollars every day? Why donât we include those repeat felo s. Burglaries, robbery, assault, still victimize. Some of these dirtbags have years of criminal offenses, and are still either on the street or in training while sitting in prison. Send a clear message âCriminal behavior will not be toleratedâ. We wouldnât tolerate repeat problems with employees, so why is our society burdened with these criminals. Prison doesnât appear to be a deterrent. What we are doing doesnât work.
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It only gets worse as you get older. 
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Thatâs what I am saying. Thereâs no definitive evidence because the n to test the hypothesis is miniscule. In other words, we havenât had enough executions to test the hypothesis. We DO know that âvery fewâ executions ISNâT working to deter crime.
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Thatâs what Iâve been saying for the last few years. What is more cruel? Keeping a person locked up for 23 hrs a day in a 14x20 cell until he dies or strapping his arse to old smokey and running 100KV thru him? If I were a crook I would much more prefer a split second of pain and then die than to be locked up that long in a tiny space. If it wasnât for the fact that we would have to pay someone to bring him meals, give him room and board and pay for his medical; I would say keep him in a 10x10 cell.
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So we can stand back and watch them take each other out over who controls it.