Death penalty

What do you think about the death penalty.

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Zero repeat offenders!

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Whatever we think about it right now, can be used against us in the future… :zipper_mouth_face:

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Everyone can’t be “saved.” We have limited resources.

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Well, the death penalty is an absolute deterrent against further crime by the person executed. The threat of the penalty on the table might just deter others from murdering someone else. Discussions about the humanity of such actions by the state or the socially acceptable mores do not persuade or move me. Murder is a very personal crime for the victim and family especially. A justified killing is also very personal outside the military application. If one has not thought this through in deciding to use lethal force with all the attendant consequences, psychologically and legally, then one probably should not carry a lethal weapon. Choosing to be a “sheepdog” for yourself and family comes with great responsibility and reflection. Ok, off the soap box…and so it goes…

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I oppose it for the same reason I oppose abortion. When does someone like me have the right to decide that someone else no longer gets to live? Now, life in a 4x8 cell, eating bread, water and vitamin supplements, with no tv, no gym time, etc I’m good with.

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I believe life in prison without any possibility of parole is worst than the death penalty. Your life will never be the same, someone else will be controlling your every move. As far as the death penalty goes, I can’t decide whether someone lives or dies either. God takes care of that and he doesn’t like ugly.

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It’s been repeatedly shown that the death penalty does not as a deterrent to crime, that it costs more, and that it sometimes results in the wrong person being executed.

In theory I don’t object to the concept of capital punishment, but I oppose it in the context of the manifold problems associated with our justice system and the carrying out of these punishments.

Mike

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I saw an interview with a serial killer serving life, it was years ago and I cannot remember the name. He transitioned to another gender in prison, does drugs, has a boyfriend, and his words stuck in my memory “If they knew how much fun I am having, they would kick me out of prison”.
I guess, what you said is not universal and depends on the criminal’s attitude.

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Yes I do agree @Alexander8 that it does depend on the criminal and his attitude.

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AMEN!! Well put.

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I think that people who are for life in prison should pay a special tax for the cost to take care of those people. Not to mention collecting social Security while in prison. Even with death sentences going on forever with all kinds of appeals cost tax payers a hole lot of money. ( NO Offense ) PS NOT EVERYONE Believes in God. :us::us::us::us:

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I had the displeasure of working in all state prisons within my state and the inmates have more free resources than the average person. To include gyms, education, internet, just to name a few. I haven’t been in any federal prisons but I understand the treatment is even better and safer. :us::us::us:

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Depending on how my morning coffee tastes, my opinion on this issue varies from day to day.
I don’t have a strong opinion until someone asks, who am I to decide who lives and who dies?
Well, victims would like to ask the same question but sadly could no longer do so from six feet under.

Putting myself in a criminal’s shoes, how can death penalty be a deterrent when it’s toothless due to appeals?

While not deserving of the death penalty, look at Antifa and their repeated unpunished crimes and disregard for law. What is there to fear when they get away with it?
Jail for hardened criminals is like a trip to the grocery store.
And now, we even have social justice activists in state posts who give out undeserved early release for even violent criminals.

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https://www.thebalance.com/comparing-the-costs-of-death-penalty-vs-life-in-prison-4689874

https://www.amnestyusa.org/issues/death-penalty/death-penalty-facts/death-penalty-cost/

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/costs/summary-of-states-death-penalty

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That’s the whole problem. Prison isn’t a punishment anymore. They are like country clubs. Cable tv. Basketball courts. Weight rooms. It should be more like the “Tent prison” Sheriff Joe had in Maricopa County Arizona. Minimal “accommodations, and hard labor.

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We have limited resources. Would you rather pay for this or something else? Cheaper healthcare? More education for poor kids?

I would posit that there is a significant difference between the two. In the case of capital punishment, the individual is executed based upon their proven, presumably voluntary, actions which resulted in death to an individual(s) and harm to the greater society. Abortion is the arbitrary ending of an innocent human life, as innocent as is humanly possible to be, based upon personal whim or convenience (all caveats in place).

It is not given to us to see the future. No one can predict what path a child yet unborn may take; good, bad, or mediocre, and it is distinctly American to believe that everyone gets the same opportunity to succeed or fail on their own merits. The murderer, on the other hand, has made a choice and displayed to the world just what kind of person they are, no guesswork or prognostication involved.

Just some initial shallow thoughts on what are ultimately deep subjects.

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Which could be an argument in favor of the death penalty as being more humane.

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