Trying to change anyone’s mind by arguing with them on the internet is futile.
It’s also rather childish, pedantic, and immature.
Here’s a news flash.
You’re not going to change anyone’s mind by insulting them.
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Except we are a public site because they invite EVERYBODY in to talk. Excactly like FB, YT and all the other private domains that are used as a public forums. Those domains are free from liability because they are a PLATFORM just like this and are given protection under the law. If the USCCA made this a private forum them the USCCA would be liable for what is said here. This platform is just as much a benefit to the USCCA as it is to us. The non shooting public comes here which increases the USCCA visibility to the public and we use it for our platform to voice our opinions. EXACTLY like FB and YT.
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“I Wanna be a
MOD-A-
Rater Tim!
I wanna Be a
Mod-A-RATER Tim!”
A VOTE for Don102 is a VOTE For YOU! (see that Rhymes! )
Jobs that paid $21 an hour now pay $16.00 ! To risk my precious life! NO SIR!
It cost $975 + to be a Level3 Guard (including a psyke eval 
)
She obviously didn’t know what she was doing because I passed! 
Does the Job pay Tim?
I wish to work from my Bunker!
Get out and Vote folks this year for Everybody named Don !
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They may be free from liability but they are not free from bad publicity. I’m sure a big part of starting this forum was to try and attract new members as well as keeping current members engaged. If comments on here shed a bad light on the organization and its members they risk loosing current and potential future members.
The USCCA is not a social media company. I believe they are a member centered company whose product is providing responsible self defense education and self defense insurance for its members. They provide this forum to further those goals. Not to let anyone say whatever they want. From what I see FB and YT are far more aggressive with their censorship efforts despite being companies whose product is an online forum for speech.
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And neither are FB or YT free from bad publicity. That isn’t the purpose that those or this platform serve. I agree the USCCA started off as a company to promote firearm ownership and safety but THEY have branched out into the public forum by creating this platform. The USCCA uses it for their purposes and we use for ours. They created it and allow EVERYBODY in the world to use it. When it becomes a too big of a pain in the arse, they can close it but that doesn’t serve the mission the USCCA has decided themselves to do.
This site is open to the world to use. It was started by ppl that wanted to defend the 2A. They have decided to grow their scope by creating this site. They chose the possibility of bad publicity and everything that comes with creating a public forum. They chose the risk.
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Which is why they have guidelines and rules in place to protect their brand and us members.
It’s messy and not perfect but not nearly as bad as some sites I have occasionally popped into.
There are also not all that many of us posting here regularly so it is understandable that they have likely trimmed down the number of employees devoted to overseeing this sight and are relying more on automated processes.
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And just like every site, they let the squeaky wheel get the grease. If the snowflakes win here then what? Are we going to roll over and play dead to some ppl that want to impose their views of what should be allowed? Or do we stand up and say no you are the new one here, we like it as it is.
Do you want to let somebody else stop you from disagreeing? No you don’t. Well neither do I. Their rights end where mine begin.
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Sadly, that’s already happened, and it was a while ago. I left for quite a while as it was just like being on F-book, YouTube comments, or any of the others.
This is the new world and the adults are gone, as are direct, honest conversation and comments.
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That’s why I’m making a fuss. People in many ways are like herd animals. When the herd sees one of its own running, they run too although they don’t know why. If the herd sees one standing still holding its ground the others will too even if they don’t know why.
My $0.02 worth…if this were my site, and I was the USCCA, I would limit discussion to topics related to concealed carry and education on self defense while carrying.
What this community has sadly devolved into in many cases has nothing to do with being a responsible concealed carrier devoted to the safe use of legal firearms to protect themselves and other innocents.
If I were USCCA, I’d just shut the whole outhouse down. It’s too risky.
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Precisely.
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Mat (with Respect)
What you fail to grasp my Brother is the sickest (and sometimes phunniest shite)
that happened in a Fob or barracks was the ‘Gallows Humor’
It kept the lid from completely blowing off!
THAT is what we have here today.
It’s unfortunately an open forum, anybody (I’m being nice here) can post on it
Dave 17 is not an actual member BUT he is our Brother and a valued Gunner.
I came from TTAG (The Truth about guns) and it was shite stoopid there.
The dialogue was cool but they had…well we act like a Kindergarten class that
just had a nap after milk and cookies.
THIS IS A GREAT FORUM. My second HOME
Do we have problems? suffer TROLLS, and some would say Inappropriate Meme’s and Posts?
SURE. But we are tight, and would support any member here.
Will most of us never meet in person?
SURE. But these folk’s are as much Family as my Brothers in the field.
The ONLY reason we squabble is because in the field we could lose each other in a moments notice. Bang Bang! they were dead.
Here we have a safety net.
This may be all Bullshite to some who maybe won’t understand
But those that do ‘GET IT!’
Of course when you have what? Maybe a couple a hundred posting here out of 800,000+
Members we’re gonna fight (occasionally) but you won’t find a more Loyal, tight bunch of
Gunner’s anywhere.
Mi dos Pesos
WWG1WGA
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I do not spend a lot of time here. The problems you are describing is also happening on another forum that I do spend a more time with.
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Some years ago I was a member of a firearms related organization which also provided an internet based “community” forum open to the public. As these things usually go, that forum eventually became unfocussed and chaotic. Life changed for me and I ended up leaving that pursuit.
Fast forward a few years and I checked back in to find many changes on that forum. It is still open for anyone to READ topics in the public area. In order to post responses or start new topics one must register as a member of the forum, but still in the public area only, which is strictly limited in the subject matter.
In order to access the wider-ranging and far more interesting section of the forum (think memes, jokes, classifieds, politics, religion, social commentary, etc.) one must become a paid member in good standing of the parent organization. Even then there are firm rules about language, personal attacks, obscenity and so on, and those rules are closely enforced. It seems to have helped the general tenor of the place, at least in the public areas. I don’t know about the “members only” section. Even though I was a founding member of the parent organization, that counts for nothing nowadays and my interests have changed enough that now I wouldn’t find enough value to pay the fees to re-join.
Any forum which is open to all comers will sooner or later be diverted from its original and preferred subject matter by persons who believe that they “know better”.
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The best forum ever I’ve been part of is “1911 Forum”.
This is a forum for gun enthusiasts… it’s not a place for memes, political debates, vacation stories nor breakfast menu. 
4 years ago both - 1911 Forum and USCCA Community were very precisely focused on discussions that applied to those forums. These days 1911 Forum is still on its route… USCCA Community not so much anymore…
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As for me I get the back and forth posts that go back and forth etc etc but when someone’s hurt feelings trumps my RIGHT to freedom of speech then I guess I’ll have to discontinue my membership. We own and many carry firearms and are supposed to be adults, crossing the line is one thing but in general if conversations can’t be had without agreement or disagreement then it becomes censorship. Which is what we are supposed to be fighting against!
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The forum is such a small part of what the USCCA is about. Only an incredibly tiny percentage of USCCA members post here.
I wouldn’t factor whether or not I liked the forum into my decision to keep my membership and insurance benefits.
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Not only that but, of course, freedom of speech doesn’t mean that a private entity must host your speech on *their private forum
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Freedom of speech is the right to articulate opinions and ideas without interference, retaliation or punishment from the government, no?
Not the people, or private companies.
Forums are a privilege. We all push their boundaries all of the time. They generally spring back.
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That depends on how hard the pusher pushes. So I generally agree with your statement. But it is one thing to disagree, it is quite another to revert to name-calling. “Turds flush themselves” is a statement that IMHO implies that one is a “Turd” simply for having a different point of view. Yet this statement has been used to describe those that would argue a point on these forums. I don’t agree with everything that is said here but I absolutely disagree (vehemently) when one starts calling another names. I am guilty of targeting certain areas of the country for their relaxed prosecution of obvious criminal activity and if a person from that area told me that it offended him/her, I would refrain from doing so. But there is no excuse for implying that one is a “Turd” simply because his/her ideas differ. Jus sayin.
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