Biden did take it several steps further. But Trump is still extremely proud of his experimental vaccines. We can’t be sure he wouldn’t have pushed for those same mandates if the vaccines had made it to market while he was President. He also allowed the various medical teams under his control to censor information and promote false propaganda that lead to states, businesses and schools to unnecessarily enacting draconian lockdown procedures. We are still dealing with the economic, health and child development impacts from those early policy decisions.
Oh, and by the way, this guy:
Noubar Afeyan
Is the founder and chairman of Moderna. He’s also a political activist, member of the World Economic Forum, and is now actively lobbying American politicians and judges to “stop questioning established science.”
Operation Warp Speed took most of those consequences away from the pharmaceutical companies and passed them onto US tax payers.
Not so fast! Operation Warp Speed intended to deliver a vaccine (according to then-definition of one), for the purpose of making people better. Fraud, conspiracy, moving the goal posts to mislead public, using US resources for goals other than intended, and other criminal acts are not covered by this, or any other govt. programs.
None of those things should be covered. But our current economic system more closely resembles corporate socialism than capitalism.
The corporations receive all the rewards from the risks they take and the government ends up covering the costs when their risk taking results in expensive failures.
Yup, gotta’ agree. When Trump offered immunity to big pharma for any side effects of the vax, my decision was made. At least then we had a choice, if I hadn’t been retired I wouldn’t have had one.
Ironically I was in a hospital recovering from my brief exploration of the other side of death while some of the worst of this vaccine mania was going on. The doctors would not tell me I shouldn’t get the vaccine. Clearly because of the risk of loosing their jobs if the did so. But they went out of their way to not encourage me to get.
My wife and son were not so lucky. Their work obligations and day care options while I was out of commission left them little choice but to get the vaccine:(
My limited understanding is that there has been some strong evidence that the vaccine spike proteins are being passed from vaccinated people to non vaccinated people. So we all have likely been given no choice on having to participate in this experiment:(
Please feel free to share this evidence, I would like my lawyer to have it Incase someone vaccinated cofved on me.
Talking with my brother about this today. He’s an X-ray tech and he was required to get all the shots to keep his job. I feel sorry for him because it was mandatory. Our family lives a long time typically, into late 80s-mid 90s. I only hope and pray I get to keep him that long.
I have to say too much is not known. Methodology, selection size, etc. Too many times I have seen Doctors and Scientists perform studies to further their career while the studies were B.S.
Nor am I saying the studies are wrong. Not enough information to allow a person with critical thinking skills to make a personal informed decision.
Now, I prepare to get blasted.
Possibly, more tax dollars for funding so they can continue their research. Depending on who the millions are that die. The government has already proven that the peasants (us, taxpayers) lives don’t matter. All that matters is that we keep their cash cow (taxes) flowing. The dead will still be able to vote for a certain party. The covid vaccine once again comes to mind.
Not trying to argue with you Brother, but the past few decades, it is, in my opinion, all about enriching the politicians. If it were only curiosity, they wouldn’t beg for government (taxpayer) funding. Once again it is only my opinion.
Disclaimer : for anyone (not you Alexander8) that wants to get technical, my opinion has not been researched, and there are no links to prove it validity.
Stay safe, Brothers and Sisters, Geno
Google seems to have buried the original articles I read on the subject. Don’t have time to wade through the hundreds of pages of pro vaccine propaganda that they push to the top of their search list.
But will dig further for you in the future should you ever need the info to help pay for any hospital bills due to vaccine related health issues:/
Back in about 77 I had a teacher tell the class: If you want to be rich become a politician. At the time I was young and nieve thinking how can a politician get rich by being in office? I think back to that statement and our current government makes perfect sense.

According to my wife, who studies things intensely ( opposites attract lol) long leaf white pine needle tea breaks down the spike proteins. I suppose I should get out for a hike and go find a new supply now that I’m permanently planted in WV. Not sure if this is proven, but just did some googling and found other benefits of this, and it does taste good. Also read about the benefits of goldenrod vs. sars/covid (Emory University article).
Thanks for that heads up! No white pines out here unfortunately .Will have to look into if Ponderosa pines will do.
There are a lot of natural remedies out there that are likely incredibly effective but they will never get the research they deserve because the pharmaceutical industry can’t make billions of dollars from them.
Very true. My wife and I are forced onto Medicare now, will probably never use it. We spend about $300 monthly of supplements which aren’t available under HSA, nor or they deductable. Judging by what I see the status quo our age spending on prescriptions and Dr. visits, we’re getting the better deal and seem to be living a better life.
There’s a lot of information and misinformation out there, but putting in the time looking it up and trying things out can pay off well. Even the things that may not work can’t be as bad as some of the medications most of us have been prescribed… last one I was on causes suicidal thoughts. Gee, thanks Doc lol.
Somber note, looking at what the VA was prescribing my son…he didn’t have a chance. I think that crap is intentional.
Can understand where you are coming from. Took me a long time to work with the heart surgeon who saved my life to widdle down all the drugs they had me in just because those were the standard treatments that heart attack patients are supposed to get. Recovering from a fatal heart attack was easy compared to having to recover from all the complications from the treatment and side effects from the drugs.
I am down to one last prescription medicine I am working to find a natural replacement for. One of the side effects for that supposedly heart attack reducing medicine is heart attacks:/
Best wishes in your search. If my wife was awake I know she’d have something to say. I have high blood pressure, usually running around 170/110 unless I get a good cardio workout in which lowers it when my pulse increases. Enigma, my cardiologist had no answer, told me my heart was enlarged from scar tissue, then took my pulse and decided it was an “athletes heart”. Military doc has me at 210/140 44 years ago and told me to go home and make peace with my family. 30 mile bicycle ( e-bike, knees are shot) ride today… I really don’t understand why I haven’t had a stroke but thank God for giving me the ability to hike and bike still…I take fish oil pretty religiously, coQ10 when I remember to buy it, and keep the magnesium, potassium, c and d intake going. I read tonight that long leaf white pine needle tea dilates blood vessels thus lowering b/p, giving me further incentive to get out in the woods and look.
