The Big Question;;;
currently or in the future will USCCA include RED FLAG LAW coverage
the reason I ask one of our sons is way off the rails in thought about
He feels that we [my wife and I] needs to support his LBGQRSTWXYZ life style, we do not support this
We chose to cut ties with him several years ago.
his hate is so sever that I would not put it past him to falsely turn us in
under the red flag laws and create a false narrative to accomplish this
from what we are hearing it will cost 10 grand or more [plus time] to reverse the process and have our firearms returned.
any input will be help full
The Big Question;;;
Sorry to hear about about this, I am sure it cannot be an easy situation.
I would contact USCCA directly at 1-877-677-1919 to get the best answer.
My understanding is that Delta Defense currently only covers firearm related “self defense” cases. Or should I just say self defense cases.
First- have you seen anyone get red flagged and had their guns removed from them?
Secondly- If a judge got one notice of a red flag it would not/ should not be put into motion. It would take more than one person’s statement.
Third- If the law enforcement has any record on you, they will know whether or not to act upon this. They may question you or someone you know for an investigation. For they know as well as a judge that a person can do exactly what you are talking about.
I am not a lawyer but I did stay at a Holiday Express.
Purely personal recommendation follows, nothing at all to do with guns or red flag laws:
Don’t cut ties with your children
As a USCCA member, the self defense liability insurance policy issued to the USCCA, on which members are additional insureds, does not offer coverage for red flag laws. So you are correct.
Any lawful act of self defense not otherwise excluded. There is is also the potential for a covered legal liability arising from a stolen firearm used by a third party, with certain conditions.
the whole point is;
USCCA might want to consider coverage for ‘‘red flag law’’
I was using my situation as an example of what could happen
You are assuming that the other side will play fair in this scenario. But I can’t think of any examples where they don’t play fair though.
You’ve been paying attention.
That is a difficult situation but basically the same one we are all in with different reasons. Loosing our 2A right because people think it is easier to take guns away than protect ourselves. To me this is about your son and your wife and you. You might feel it is your responsibility to guide your son but you can’t dictate. Neither one can dictate how the other one should live. We can love each other to understand each other without prejudice. We don’t have to understand each others reasons we have to understand each other. Since you are the father, you have to understand him, before he can understand you. I hope you have the wisdom and strength to do that. Hope I am not getting too personal and this helps.
My non expert understanding is that many of these red flag laws do allow local law enforcement to use their discretion to confiscate firearms based on the statement of one person. They are not required to investigate if they choose to believe that one person’s statement. The firearm owner is guilty until they prove themselves innocent in this case.
Thats a great reply sir
Great question. Many have already commented about what the USCCA covers. That said, it might also depend on what state you live in. In my state there are strict rules covering Red Flag laws. If abused - if there is false accusation - the accuser could find him/herself facing stiff penalties and jail time.
In my State they just come late @ night and shoot you at your front door (after they make little scratching noises and mew like a wounded animal and dump a stinkey on your porch)…sorry, sorry serious topic.
Michael, I honestly pray that nothing happens to you and your family. Today we are the enemy of the state. And NO I am not joking. Anyway this administration can make up a way to take our guns they will try. ‘Red flag’ is just the latest. This is a dangerous precedence for you and all of us . Can anybody just say “he’s a danger to…” and come and storm troop over all of us? The demoncrats would be on the phones burning up the phone lines 24/7 ! The way to TOTAL CONTROL is full disarmament, It worked in Venezuela, England, Australia ,Germany etc etc.
We are a threat to their plan of total Domination. Lets keep it that way.
Since your son is not in a rational state of mind, you could be proactive and have a restraining order set against him. Surely he has your phone number and if he ever repents of his behavior, he would be able to text or call to restore the relationship.
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fortunately He is in Europe but still can email or call
not going to loose sleep over this just hope USCCA will add this to coverage
An important topic: First of all the Red Flag laws are not a result of any one administration, so we need to stop blaming lefts and rights. States have these laws to prevent people threatening themselves or others. Usually for suicide threats. I knew someone who lost possession of his weapons for about a year after a family member called for a wellness check and the guns were confiscated. The person was, in this case, potentially at risk. While intoxicated or high, all bets are off, logical thinking and thinking of consequences is diminished. Sometimes these laws save lives.
I was able to help him regain his weapons after some specific therapy and interventions. Can’t say much more than that. But I advocated for him once I was sure he was not at risk, to the best of my knowing.
Do people abuse these laws? Of course! people abuse all kinds of laws. Doesn’t mean the law is inherently wrong. There has to be just reasoning…or there should be.
@MICHAEL_LEE1 PM me if you want to discuss further. Hopefully, the scenario you are worried about will not happen.
What is this based on?