Or a certain party is the party that is going to win the elections in that jurisdiction and that certain party consistently follows their party platform of gun control
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Gun control has nothing to do with politics. There is no way to control who has guns and who doesn’t. Gun control is about putting words on paper. It has nothing to do with controlling guns.
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True Gun control is a steady hand, the rest is a control thing and power. I’m just glad I live in a gun friendly state.
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Saw someplace that some 30 million gun owners did not vote in prior elections. I can’t for the life of me comprehend in a country where we can vote so many forfeit their voices and then complain about rights lost. They need to put a warning label on all guns and ammunition sold; “failure to vote will result in higher costs, less availability, or possible ban of this item.”
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Except it does.
It’s literally written into the platform of the Democrat party and it doesn’t take much looking to compare red vs blue states and see a major trend in gun control laws.
I mean…let’s take the worst gun control states…NY, NJ, HI, CA, IL, WA, OR, MD, MA…what political leaning do they all share?
You can do the same with the best gun Rights states…IN, GA, FL, ND, ID, WY, SD, KY, TN, OK…there are others don’t be mad if I missed yours…what political leaning do they all share?
If you disregard the overtly obvious and extraordinarily significant political component to gun control, you might be more dangerous to the RKBA than the antis are.
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Yes.
People who care about their and our Right to keep and bear arms must understand the significant relationship between politics and gun control, VOTE, and keep that relationship in mind when they vote.
Not saying the RKBA should be every gun owner’s sole or even primary yardstick when measuring/determining who to vote for. But…vote…and be aware of the RKBA/gun control implication of your vote
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I think I am more democratic than most people here. The Democratic Party wants to reduce guns. I want to reduce guns. I know we can’t reduce guns until we get them out of the hands of criminals. To do that we need guns. It is not a red vs blue issue. It is a moral issue. I think immoral people are trying to make it a political issue. To me it is like putting the cart before the horse. Once we reduce criminal violence we can reduce violence.
What does “reduce guns” mean?
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I think you know what it means. I can tell you it doesn’t mean make guns smaller 
. It means getting guns out of the hands of criminally violent people. What does it mean to you?
It doesn’t mean anything specific to me, I have never in my life used that phrase and doubt I ever will.
If I am to infer, it means gun control, it means taking away people’s guns or not letting them get guns to begin with.
I would pick a more precise phrase for “keeping guns away from violent criminals” than “reduce guns”.
Especially since democrats want to do far more than keep guns out of the hands of violent criminals.
What does a 1k round per month ammo limit do to keep guns out of the hands of violent criminals, for example??
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It does nothing. I think we agree on that. I hope we are not talking past each other. We the responsibly armed are the ones who have to keep guns out of the hands of the criminally violent by putting the fear of God in them. My point is politics has nothing to do with it. Politicians just want us to think they can do it with laws. I think we can do it by being responsibly armed. Not with politics. Politics is a distraction to me.
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An issue I see with this is that the politicians are infringing on our Right to keep and bear arms. The laws they pass work on us, they don’t work on the violent criminals.
So they are doing the exact opposite of what you are seekig
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I’m sure I will be corrected if I’m wrong. IIRC states that do pass pro gun laws, crime falls. Back in the 90s when KY passed open carry the lefties lost it saying crime will go up. In fact crime fell and has leveled off (I would have to look the exact number). With all the lefties cries of impending doom if passed never came.
We as a country need to return to and demand our constitutional rights be honored. It is coming around slowly and it’s a never ending battle.
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What’s more is they infringe or our right to be legal. If that is a right. I think I am getting triggered. I’ll stop.
Edit- What I think I meant when I said reduce as in reduce guns, I was referring to the Democratic parties agenda. If I remember correctly, that is how it was worded.
Sorry, I believe I left a “not” in the sentence that should not be there.
The fact is that the party that proposes gun legislation that literally criminalizes otherwise law abiding citizens actually runs for office and develops a strategy to secure the majority of votes from the electorate. Its opponents consistently lose.
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It’s probably worse than that. One of the issues is that people are offended if you suggest that they become more politically involved. Ask me how I know.
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That’s not what I said or claimed in any manner.
Yes, several organizations, including my state one, VCDL, in which I am active.
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Because you continuously post that non-sense. We, here, active on this forum, are the choir you claim isn’t singing. Many here belong to Rights groups, are active in them, vote, and contact legislators - not just “ours”, etc.
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