Dont come to MI, they say we have to register everything now as of last year. This damned state has had pistol registration with your county for decades. All new purchase of long guns ( even inheritance, etc) as of last year.
I hate this state
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Texas uses NICS for background checks upon completion of the 4473. When you qualify for the TX License To Carry, not required, due to TX has Constitutional Carry, but LTC does have its perks. Then use of the LTC in the buying process, allows the selling store to bypass the NICS check (if they so desire). I know some pawn shops that will still do a NICS after you show/use your LTC as ID when purchasing. The above is in reference to buying from a store only, buying from an individual is a private and separate transaction.
BTW, Welcome to Great Republic of Texas!
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Texas sounds nice
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I’d take it on a gun by gun basis. If you like a gun, keep it, regardless of its compliance status. If you have a gun that is CA compliant, and you’re not in love with it, sell it before you leave. Specifically CA compliant guns like your AR will be worth more in CA than anywhere else, I’m sure. No one in a free state would want an AR with all the restrictions that states like CA put on them.
And, welcome aboard and congrats on your move to freedom.
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Why sell them? Just add to your collection.
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Sell them and make a clean break. You don’t need objects reminding you of the sh!t show you left behind. Weapons are tools, like hammers and garden rakes. Get new ones.
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We use the NCIS ( hell it’s located here ) but it’s to see if your allowed to own a gun like if you’re a felon or on some watch list or whatever but it’s not a registration thing at all it’s not even made or configured for that and if you get the gun because your allowed to own one they hand it to you right there when the call is over and the record of it happening is destroyed in 48 hours.
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Plus I have heard IDK because mine goes through instantly because I have no police record but like I was wanting to say is most don’t go through because some criminal has a SS # like yours but if it doesn’t go through in 36 hours they have to give it to you.
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The NCIS is the very same system any LEO uses
during a traffic stop to run your license information against that data base to see is you have any W/W, wants, or warrants as a fugitive from justice in any U.S. jurisdiction before he releases you or, just writes a traffic citation when he should be conducting a felony arrest while he has you. And, not just let you go on your marry way.
A lot of stupid fugitives are scooped up commuting silly traffic violations that if they are aware they have warrants out should avoid.
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By “…the record of it happening is destroyed in 48 hours.” I don’t think that’s for the AFT form 4473. Paper or Electronic it has to be kept for several years. I know first hand that ATF, FBI…etc have contacted a FFL, to obtain a “trace” copy of an old 4473, when a firearm was used in a crime. They provide the make/model/serial number and initial date of sell and ask for the hard copy be forwarded to them (for paper versions). I’ve been personally involved in searching many boxes for different years to fulfill their requests.
I do agree that its not a “registration” of the owner, the 4473 is just the paper trail of 1st purchaser, or if the firearm was sold to a FFL, it is the trail of the subsequent sell/purchase.
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I think there is some confusion about the letters we see. NICS (not NCIS, that’s a Navy thing and tv show) is the National Instant Check System, run only for FFLs to check eligibility to buy a firearm. Local police departments us a separate system, also maintained by the FBI, the National Crime Information Center (NCIC)., for traffic stops aand warrant checks.
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Yes, it’s the source of data (background checks) if one wants to know how Obama became the most successful promoter of gun sales of all time.
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Thanks to everyone who has responded! I have a few months to consider what to do, but I think I will wander down to my favorite gun store and find out their opinion as well, and how much I can get for each. I would be happy to get rid of the AR and get a “non-bastardized” one after I move - the others might take some thought…
I will post what the ultimate decision is.
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Please forgive me if I misunderstand California AR requirements, but what I understand is you could replace the grip and remove the magazine retainer. At the low end that’s a $5 investment in a new grip. You could continue on with the fixed stock if the LOP is to your liking, or a small investment of money to put an adjustable stock on it. Am I missing something here?
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All that could be true but all I do know for certain is there is NO GUN REGISTRATION IN WEST VIRGINIA, and I didn’t use caps because I was raising my voice to you I just wanted anyone else to hear it lol.
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California AR laws were very confusing and changed a couple times. For an AR to NOT be considered and Assault Weapon, it either needed some form of magazine lock that required the upper to be separated from the lower, or it needed to be “featureless”.
I had one of each when I lived there. I sold the “featureless” rifle before I moved. That rifle, a Sig M400, had no pistol grip, no adjustable stock, no forward grip, and no flash hider. The rifle I took with me, only had a small metal wafer that kept the mag release button from functioning until I pulled the rear takedown pin to separate the upper from the lower. That wafer was easily removed and now it is no different than any other AR.
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All it took to make mine featureless was add a hideous attachment to the grip, something I could take off anytime I want—but I’m not doing that because it would be illegal 
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