ShotSpotter Tech

Interesting tech used by police in Broward and Palm Beach:

https://www.shotspotter.com/technology/

Example:

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I’m wondering why “shot spotter’s” results are not published more often. This system has been alive since 2014. I’ve heard only single TV discussion about it… and people were angry about the installation… :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

I understand why ppl are upset with red light cameras, maybe same reason?
My friend lives near I95, woke up around 2am to the sound of someone driving on the highway and shooting…

I believe it is that it is typically used in urban areas where gun fire is not typically supposed to be, therefore, deemed racist. I also believe that tech has been around much longer than that. This story addresses the racial bias.

And a quote from this story:

Detroit resident Eric Blount, an ongoing opponent of surveillance, urged council members against approving ShotSpotter, calling it another “lock-'em-up tool” for police.

“This insatiable need to watch people of color and those who have been made poor is demonic,” Blount said to the council Tuesday. “We cannot arrest our way out of poverty or into prosperity, and the fact that using the same methods we use for decades and Detroit is still the poorest big city in this country.”

And one last one, for good measure:

Montgomery’s district in Southeast San Diego is the city’s most diverse, and it’s also home to the only four neighborhoods where Shotspotter devices are used. While streetlights are dispersed across the city with little correlation to race or economic class, the San Diego Union-Tribune reported that “a greater proportion of black residents and poor residents live in neighborhoods where smart streetlights have been accessed by police.”

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:man_facepalming: So it is poverty that makes loud 160dB popping sound.

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Seems to have worked in the city I work in. Suspect arrested after April 5 homicide in Monroe

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I was only addressing Jerzy’s comment about why those in the areas that tech is placed do not like it there as anything used to address the crime issue is viewed as racist as it is them that are affected the most. The problem with putting shot spotters in rural areas is that those are typically low crime areas and gun shots are more likely to be legal, i.e., hunting, etc.

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There is tech out now that can detect guns and alert people to review the footage. The idea is to alert before a shooting happens and potentially have police on seen much faster and or instituting lock down protocols.

It is intended to be used in and around buildings.

If someone is hiding it under clothing, etc. , it will not detect until it is drawn. Even if the pistol is held along the leg pointed at the floor it can detect it.

My stance is this, you either agree with surveillance or you don’t. I think too many have a “not in my neighborhood” attitude but are ok with it in “certain” areas. In my book, that’s wrong. We are under surveillance daily, almost anywhere we go. Personally, while I have nothing to hide, I don’t like it. I don’t like the idea that my every move and whereabouts are cataloged which is why location services on my phone are off unless I need them.

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100% with your post and wholeheartedly agree about cellphones. I even have Siri turned off and Microsoft Cortana on my computer also turned off, as much as possible.

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I’m sorry to disappoint you… you are still tracked without “location service” at your phone. You are turning off service provider’s function. Device is still traceable by IMEI.

Technology is everywhere and we cannot avoid or deny it anymore.
Shot Spotter may be wrongly understood as invigilation device, but as we have read - it helps.

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It is believed to be racist by those communities it is placed in.

The cell phone itself is not tracking you when the programs in it that track the phone’s location are turned off. This prevents needless third-parties obtaining data on your whereabouts. Yes, we cannot avoid the triangulation used by the phone, and those records can be accessed by the government when investigating a crime.

Dungeons and torture chambers have been around for millennia and they “helped” the enfranchised protect their status quo for many centuries. Perhaps we should return to dipping people’s hands or feet in boiling cauldrons of oil or thumb screws as “effective” interrogation methods?

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Technically, if the phone is on and communicating with cell towers then yes, you’re correct, it can be traced by various methods such as triangulation or even by methods much less thought of as tracking such as data from the phone sensors etc. using timezone data, air pressure, and public maps… However, this takes a bit more knowledge and determination and is more of an estimation than true location.Turning off location services, GPS, and WiFi is sufficient to render most websites’ and Google software from tracking your every move.

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But we are discussing HIGH tech knowledge. People or Agencies using technologies like “ShotSpotter” don’t care about your Google software.

My point is that implementing technologies which can help in everyday safety shouldn’t bother regular person.
If you are not “a person of interest” you don’t need to hide yourself nor disable GPS /WiFi / Location… If “Big Brother” wants to hear you and find you, he will do this no matter what.

Well, I don’t have anything to hide, I still don’t want to be under constant surveillance. I guess we can take your argument to a national gun registry as well. I have nothing to hide, so why worry about the government knowing all my possessions? The point is really about where these are placed and based on what criteria.

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I wouldn’t mind to see it in my location… the only thing is it would be waste of taxpayers’ money. We haven’t had a single gunshot or armed incident for last 12 years (since I’ve been here).

These are placed wherever they are needed.

These places do exist!

oh yeah… definitely do.
I still have to shovel the snow, mow the grass, pick up after the dog and drive to work… so I cannot say “it’s Heaven”… but nothing really to complain :stuck_out_tongue: