Searching for my first EDC

A lot of this depends on the size of your hands and the how well you hand can curl around the grip. If you have long slender fingers vs beefy fingers makes a huge difference.

I have fairly large hands and have found the following works very well. I have several that I rotate in my carry.

From Smith & Wesson: M&P Shield Plus Performance Center 4" barrel with built in comp. Good capacity (13+1) and the comp absolutely does make a difference.
If you hand is smaller, the M&P Shield or Shield 2.0 may work better. The grip is smaller, but the capacity is lower, 7+1 or 8+1 rounds.

Another possible pistol is the M&P Shield EZ 9mm, This was designed for folks that are not able to rack the slide on most handguns, however, the capacity is low. One of the really nice things about it is that the magazine is also designed for people with weak hand strength and has a tab that you use to allow easier loading of the magazine and a grip safety in case you are concerned about it accidentally going off.

From Springfield Armory: The Hellcat (3") or Hellcat Pro (4"). The primary differences are the Pro has a 4" barrel instead of A 3" barrel. Also, a slightly longer grip. The Hellcat offer good capacity 13+1, or you can use the extended 15 round magazine. The Pro offers up to 17 rounds. If you get the threaded barrel, you can add the comp to either of them. This adds about 1 inch to barrel length.
You may even consider a ā€œMiniā€ 1911 such as the EMP or the Ronin EMP available in 3" or 4" barrel. This is an extremely comfortable gun to shoot, but again, you lose capacity. You are limited to 9 or 10 rounds.

Any of the handguns that people have listed are excellent choices, however, you really need to start thinking about one item that makes a huge difference. That is your holster. I, personally, do not like the kydex holsters as they are too stiff and frequently have a tendency to dig into my side. I’ve had several of them. Alien Gear, Versacarry, Cross Breed, Crucial Concealment, and a few others. What I do like is the blend of leather and kydex. Versacarry has an excellent holster that is leather where it meets the skin with Kydex on the outside. This gives great retention and added comfort. I also have several that a leather only, and I find that they tend to be more comfortable for me. Additionally, I have a belly band from Vanish (VNSH) that is comfortable and adjust quite well.

Which ever gun you choose, start investigating what holsters are available and find what works for you.

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You don’t like Glocks? :sweat_smile: :rofl: :joy:

Welcome to my World… :wink:

Be careful what people recommend.
Check everything twice before making decision.
SAR B6C doesn’t meet your expectations described at first post. :backhand_index_pointing_down:

This pistol is based on CZ75 construction, where slide rails are running inside the frame, making it harder to grasp and rack.


You shouldn’t be prisoner of the price…
If you like handgun which is too expensive at the moment, wait some time, save some money and go with the model you want, not the model your wallet likes.

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Don’t rule out the Taurus models either. If you want really small and slim, the 709 is really good. Otherwise the G3C has been a favorite of mine.

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i just got one with the gear up $639 it’s a sweet shooter out of the box and great with the gear up 5 mags and optic and 2 gun bag.

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Find a range that has them in rental (may not be the same range!) and go shoot them. It’s the only way to be sure.

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A single stack design is typically going to have a narrower grip. What you lose in capacity might be made up by being easier to shoot accurately. Shot placement and hits are very important in self defense.

I have been carrying my 4" EMP more lately because it’s cold down here in Florida and I can wear heavier clothes :grinning_face: When summer hits, I will change to a smaller Sig P938. I use 2 all leather holsters, one IWB, one OWB for the EMP4. I use a leather/kydex hybrid IWB or a leather pocket holster for the P938. They are both single action only, SAO, triggers. You owe it to yourself to try a single stack SA trigger- you might like it.

From my perspective, the most difficult part of EDC is becoming comfortable with EDC. It will feel like everyone you meet knows what you are doing. In reality, they are so busy with what they are doing, they will never notice.

Edit: you can make up for reduced capacity by carrying a spare magazine. Train reloading with it.

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Find a range that rents them and shoot them both, even if you have to drive a long way. That’s really the only way to decide. And you may find that you don’t really like either one. You can’t pick a gun based on paper specs and youtube reviews. I was certain I knew which gun I wanted to buy, then I shot it and it was terrible in my hand. There are so many good guns in the $500-800 range that you will find something that works for you. You might even find that a compact 9mm is too snappy and go for a 380.

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I love my Ronin EMP 4". It is highly accurate and very slim. I appreciate the extra weight of it as it also helps to decrease recoil and, let’s face it, the angle of the grip on a 1911 is almost perfect.

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A) I have a S&W Bodyguard 2. It fires a 380 ACP cartridge. Two things hold me back from giving a thumbs up. 1) Getting 12 rounds into the 12 round mag. Its tight, can be done but it takes a bit of work. 2) Racking it, its a hard rack and that is a problem for some with weaker hand strength or inadequate technique. But to be clear it has enough stopping power. Will depend on shot placement. Disagree with the person that said 2 in the torso and one in the head. You will go to jail for murder if you walk up and put a bullet in their brain. The CSI people will figure that out in a hurry.
B) Am looking at a stock Sig 365. Its a 9mm and does have a 12 round mag or 10 round. Its about $600. Fired one at the range the other day. Am going try a couple more cycles with it to be sure. You can get a custom Sig 365 but with a red dot its $1400-1500. All things considered its not worth it. Average encounter distance is 9-15 feet. You will be lucky to get two shots off.

But rent one or rent something else, there has to be somewhere. Good luck in finding a EDC.

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Welcome Back to the fold EDWARD!
You are right where you’re suppose to be.
WWG1WGA
NCSWIC

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Welcome to the community. I agree with you, we don’t carry guns to kill people, we carry them to stop a threat. If the only way we can stop them is to shoot them in the head, that is a different story. G-d bless.

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That’s why we pay more.
My Staccato and SFX - both 15rds, have slimmer grip than regular 1911. :wink:

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A range that rents is the way to go. Don’t shoehorn yourself into certain makes/models. So many good and varied handguns out there to choose from.

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So much input. Unexpected and totally appreciated, all.

Yes, I need to try out several models in real time, on a live range. That’s how I discovered the Chiappa Rhino 30DS, which is an amazing revolver IMHO. It’s likely I will need to go out of state to try out everything in which I’m interested. Canik? Not here. Kimber? Sorely limited. Springfield Armory? They look at me like I’ve got two heads. Bersa? Ain’t happening. Neither is H&K nor Benelli. I’m really not joking when I say it’s Glock dominated territory in my area. Glock, S&W, and Sig Sauer all day, everyday. I had to go online to find my Rugers (judge if you must, a Mark IV of any variety is a fun gun to shoot and I love cleaning and customizing them as much as I do plinking with the lot.) Ditto for finding my Walther .22. Thankfully, I’ve got plenty of time to find the right EDC and the P320 is getting in a lot of practice because it’s the only .9mm I own. I still don’t like it (too big, too bulky) but I drill with it weekly just because. I’ve even done holster drills with proficiency, so it is a carry option if needed. I’d just rather not need it.

Will be hitting up another area shop later today to see what’s available.

Oh, FYI: My FFL is a feed and grain store. Yep. Because I’m not paying $75+ per transfer. Again, wasn’t kidding when I said the area leaves a lot to be desired.

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That’s why I chose the word ā€œtypicallyā€ very carefully. I knew you or someone else was going to point out exceptions :+1:

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Yeah.. you are absolutely right.
We know it, but these messages are valuable to all new members and shooters.

I understand how @CarrieB13 feels about buying the firearm, because I went through the same process.
I was in better position once I found the range with 30 different handguns I could rent. I shot all of them and quickly made a short list of my future EDCs.
The funniest part of it is that all handguns from that list are no-go for me these days… :sweat_smile:

Yes, finding ā€œthe Oneā€ is a long process… :joy:

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My son has 2 P320’s, one set up for competition, the other bone stock. I personally don’t like either, but he can out shoot me with either one :rofl:

This is why we are all saying you either have to roll the dice and learn how to run what you bought, or unfortunately figure out how to rent or borrow till you find the one. To be honest, I rolled the dice three times before I started testing before buying. The three rolls of the dice taught me a lot about what I liked and didn’t like, so I don’t feel it was a waste of time and money. The 3rd roll was the P938 I still carry the most.

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Brother, you’re going to make everyone thing we Florida guys are soft! It’s not ā€œcoldā€ down here right now, it’s just ā€œcooler!ā€ :grin:

Anyway, good advice. :+1:

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My FFL is a range. They charge $25 for the transfer.

Ask the feed and grain store to shoot a couple of chickens, it might make for a good dinner. Happy April fools day. :rofl:

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The Bersa bp9cc gets great reviews, especially the trigger and it is a single stack so it is thin and easy to cc.

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