…and sometimes it’s not worth the effort!
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Rarely!
This is a pretty great forum. Still, there’s a lto of waste that could be solved by posting an answer somewhere instead of collecting votes.
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I agree!
It’s supposed to be a discussion and or an expression of opinions. All too often it becomes a long drawn out repetition of the minute details or a game of gottcha’.
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People may forget for a lot of reasons. One may be if you carry all the time. and the weapon is just an extension of their daily lives. Two, I don’t trust anything you see on the news. I have seen this type of report before, and when you see the picture of the “guns” you will cee cap guns and water cannons. Remember, anything that looks like a gun is an assault weapon according to the news Media.
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Unfortunately I’m not buying “forget” reason. We carry firearm within all the responsibility that comes with it. If someone forgets to take off the tool or secure it going to the airport that means he / she has missed “responsible” part of that business.
Media… Ehh… let’s don’t waste our time for this … 
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In your training you are taught to not figit or think to much about where you are carrying. When you get to airports, it can be for a life trama, or you are going somewhere you are not comfortable. You will be stressed and not thinking clearly. That is why you cannot make blanket statements about you should not forget.
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To me, forgetting about a loaded gun, either on ones person or in ones dwelling, is ominous.
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If you carry one long enough you will use it when you are threatened because you have muscle memory to unholster, aim, decide whether to fire or not, and to re-holster when the threat is over without having to spend time thinking about what you are going to do. If you think before you act, you may never think again.
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I still disagree. We train to have a muscle memory, not to stop thinking.
If you train to be a machine, it’s not a good training. You cannot predict any scenario you may be part of. That’s why you still have to possess a clear mind and be able to think.
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Oops… I think it’s opposite… If you act before you think, you may never act again.
Speed is not a winning factor. You have to be fast, but “reasonably fast” and accurate.
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Yet, there is no law requiring a “driver’s license” to drive, neither is a registration required, nor insurance own or drive a vehicle. The govenrment gets involved only when the vehicle is taken off your property. The same is not true for firearms, which are regulated by voliminous criminal codes, state, federal, and even in many localities.
Not only do you need to know the federal laws, but the various laws of every state you enter and every locality in each state you enter. And in some states, as a resident of another state, you might not even be “allowed” to have a firearm, or not “allowed” certain firearms, mags, or ammunition. Would be interesting to apply similar restrictions on vehicles. Oops, no red cars allowed in this state; no V-6 engines; no gasoline-powered vehicles; no vehicles that can exceed the highest state speed limit, etc.
Yes, and even politicians and former police chiefs, etc., have been found with firearms trying to go through TSA. I guess we, the unclean, need to just submit. Then there is this: “A man carrying a fully loaded gun boarded a commercial flight in Barbados and flew to Miami with the firearm in the plane’s cabin”. It was in his pants pocket. Apparently he researched how… or not, but he still got on board with it.
A right protected by our Constitution, as our RKBA is supposed to be… Once you begin to add requirements to exercise a right, is it still a right?
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A number of years ago, on the return trip, I scanned the hotel room, as typical, and saw my pocket knife on the table. I picked it up and put it in my pocket, instead of the checked bag. I totally forgot about the knife when we got to the airport, as I always carry a knife.
I got to the TSA checkpoint and put my hand in my pocket to remove my car keys and also found my knife. Unlike a firearm, I was told I could just recall the bag at the check-in counter and put it in the checked bag. I have revamped my pre-travel procedures due to that and make sure I do not have anything that cannot go through TSA on my person before leaving home or hotel room. I even remove items then, too, such as my watch, that would typically need to be removed at the checkpoint.
Ironically, one time during a flight, my wife asked me for my knife as she was having difficulty opening a snack. I laughed, and reminded her we were on a plane. So, apparently, even those that do not have flight-prohibited items can be forgetful, too.
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In combat, you do not always have time to think. React, yes, think, no. Life and death is combat, plain and simple. That was my point.
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My Dad has been supplying them with the little swiss army knife that just has the nail file, toothpick, tweezers and a 11/2" blade. Can’t even have that in your pocket. Thanks Dave.
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Hey Dave, I’m just not sure if you understand my position on this. If you think I am saying that I think it should be illegal to carry on plains I’m not. I think it’s common sense for the airlines to not want people having gun fights thousands of feet in the air. And if they allowed me to conceal carry on a plane they’d have to allow everyone that option and I don’t think I’m good with that. I could win that gun fight and still die because I don’t know how to fly a plain. If that should be a rule or law I guess is debatable. Being that it is a rule or law currently, if you don’t know it or ignore it you’ll have to pay the price whatever that may be. As far as the guy who flew with a loaded gun I just don’t believe that story if it was supposed to have happened in the last 20ish years. I do believe you read or heard about it, but I don’t think it’s true. As far as the driving thing, I’m not sure what your point was. I’m close to sure that if my property is big enough I can shoot on it without and license. In fact, in my state you don’t need a license or insurance at all to have Or fire a firearm. You do have to be a certain age. I think driving rules are more strict then gun rules but they can’t really be compared because one is a right and the other is a privilege. I do see your point when it comes to the rules being different state to state while driving rules are all the same. This is because tyrants can’t be tyrannical if their people are armed. They can however still be tyrannical in there people can drive. This is why their focus is on guns but they can’t get any further then their state. That’s why our design is so good. Spread the power thin and limit the government as much as possible.
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I understand your point. This tactic may work in military but it is targeting different field of operations and consequences.
As civilian - always think before you act.
Anyway… we are talking about firearms being brought to the airport… 
This is not a combat zone. You have to think and be sure about your actions there. 
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I don’t fly,…
At all, Anywhere…
Save the Crass Comments…
My Choice…
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First off, do not believe the tripe you read or see in the news. Ask for serial number verifications, i worked in the airlines for 11 years. Pre-TSA. Courtesy is paramount, or it used to be. I worked in a small airport that linked to an international. We had to search luggage (carryons) which passengers took to a new level every year of hiding mostly contraband. Drugs, alcohol sort of stuff. I only saw one gun and the LEO on scene opted to not arrest the person. It was a pocket 32 which she had for CCW. She was not licensed in the great state of California, where I was born. But there were options pre-TSA. We even had confiscated some smoke grenades and a flare tube. But nothing to bring down a plane. I worked from 1979 to 1987 where i was injured protection a plane from trespassers. I lost my job for it, I imagine with all the new gun owners some are checking them in their luggage as they do not think the signs are for them. As many did for the 11 years I was there.
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You can travel with firearms, but there was a certain process and step taken to do so. LEO and Federal Agents had to present a letter of intent from their office. Civilians used to have to get a locable container which you put in your bag with ammo stored in a seperate box locable container. There are how many states with reciprocity laws for CCW. You need to learn the law, do not, repeat do not rely on desk sargents, 911 operators, and friends to tell what is legal and what is not. Police officers on patrol, Even though I believe 90 plus officers are great. There are those who want to have control. For that reason, the Second Amendment is there. Don’t be ignorant and self righteous. For me California laws became such a nightmare to traverse, you could not get a straignt answer. The NRA refered me to the local police when I wanted to travel out of state. I got the one officer who was a basket left wing power mongering disingenous person. The NRA use to print out a book for sale, but the laws have been changing so fast, that you would be lucky to get through it. You have to be responsible when you travel, by air, bus, car, motorcycle. It your right to carry responsibly.
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and the same time 
It’s your responsibility to carry right way.
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