Pepper Spray Video

Firearm Training
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I might consider deleting the details of that incident

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First Police did come. There was damage to my car. It was also in a more enlightened time. About 15 years ago. That’s when sanity made sense.

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I would like to share a few things about my experience with pepper spray;

  1. For those who are impacted by PS, I never saw a difference between 3% and (L.E.) 10%. Other than recovery time.
  2. I noticed the wind in the trees behind the speaker in the video. It is incredibly common for pepper spray to be blown back at the user. Which is rarely good.
  3. In my personal safety awareness classes, I strongly discourage women from carrying pepper spray. Should an attacker take the pepper spray away and use it on the woman, he now owns her. Notice Tim on his knees. I recommend a personal shrill alarm instead.

Pepper spray is great for mailmen, bicyclists, and cops under certain circumstances, and perhaps for making salsa. Not a particularly good choice for personal protection.

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What do you recommend for the women to protect themselves with, beyond screaming for somebody else to show up and save them?

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Better get better spray than that, too easy to miss the face, your ass is grass.

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Oooh, oooh, oooh. :raising_hand_man: I know. I know. A W.O.F.T. flashlight. :slightly_smiling_face:
Both are about as good as a Restraining Order from the Judge. :roll_eyes:

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As stated, I recommend a lanyard shrill alarm. They are safe, effective, and cannot be used against the woman.

However, if the woman has the right attitude, personality, and wherewithal, I recommend a 9 mm.

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Some “Men” are also prone to screaming for someone else to show up and save them. So, my response to your question is for both genders (or 57 genders, it’s a free country).

First, we need to have “good general awareness”. Many crimes against persons (Robbery, Rape, Assault, Murder) are “opportunity crimes”; Ambush style. They look for the easy score and easy escape. Unfortunately, many don’t practice this instinctual trait and have become overwhelmingly complacent. Obviously we cannot live our lives with our heads in a constant swivel. The awareness level fluctuates. We just need to know when and where to do that.

Along with awareness is a “good strong mindset”. This, in my view, is the catalyst for all Personal Defense. Understanding what I can do, and overcoming what I can’t do.

If a weapon (handgun, rifle, shotgun, baton, chemical agent) is chosen as an option for personal protection, then extensive training and practice are required.

My apologies for not committing to a single answer, i.e. handgun, pepper spray, baton, whistle, 9mm, .357mag, bazooka or hand grenade. The variables for personal defense or protection are infinite. And good general awareness, along with a strong mindset is a start.

There’s a short story I share in my USCCA Bio. It provides an example.

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Our Crav instructor likes to start the beginners class with something like that, he calls it “Mind Set”. “Are you willing to fight? Are you willing to devastate? Will you destroy your attacker genitals, eyes, fingers?, if not, you may need to look for an alternate method of defending yourself.”.

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What if someone threatens to use pepper spray on you? Do you use your gun to defend yourself. I would guess that pepper spray would make you vulnerable to more severe consequences.

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Not. anymore


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I don’t have much to go off of, but I agree that someone who has experienced pepper spray would have a better chance to keep attacking if they really wanted to.

This was my first ever experience with PS and the second it hit my eyes, it started to hurt like hell. There was not a delay at all (Maybe I have more sensitive eyes than others?)

That being said, now that I have experienced this, I feel pretty confident that I would handle it better and be able to keep going if needed.

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Well said.

I would prefer the women in my life to carry a .38 or 9mm.

PS is very effective against dogs and a less costly alternative to discharging your weapon.

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You would almost certainly be in the wrong to respond to the threat of pepper spray with your firearm.

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IMO it is not, nor should it be, one or the other. Neither a firearm or pepper spray is a replacement for the other. They are different tools for different situations and applications.

The biggest similarity I guess is that if you had no better option, you could use pepper spray in a ‘gun situation’ if that was all/the best you had, but the reverse is not true, you cannot use a firearm in a ‘pepper spray situation’

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