Recently bought a second hand P365 private party. Seller said he hadn’t fired it but simply realized it didn’t like the fit in his hand. He didn’t mention why the “original owner” sold it to him.
Shooting Steel at the range (love the sound), my buddy and I had a single light strike early on. After about 50-100 rounds, had a stove pipe. Then nearing 200 rounds, had a long series of failure to fire: 1, then a very other round, then a few more - probably 8-10 in total. (Then our time was up shortly thereafter.)
I’m not planning to carry it until I have at least 100-200 rounds without issue… and I’m hoping it is a break-in issue… but not sure and want to do what I can before I write a $250 check to a gun smith
Thoughts and Suggestions? I ignore anyone who says “sell it and buy a Glock”; there is a full thread on the Glock’s inability to fire on command
I have a 365xl that my wife uses … Have put many rounds down range with it… without incident … from cheap range ammo to the good stuff. Make sure you clean it well and lube it .. Then try it, if you still are getting failures… Try a different mag … If it still fails call sig. Ship it to them they should fix the issue for free…
I would suggest a very deep clean and lube. I’m sad to relay my dearly departed Father’s advice! “When you buy a used car, you bought the original owners problems”. Good luck.
Maybe the original owner shot the heck out of it. Probably replaced the slide spring, but not the hammer spring. Just a guess..
sorry I was thinking it was hammer fired. Probably replaced the firing pin spring.
Good point, also when buying second hand. Make sure to look for signs of wear… Check the slides and other spots for wear… If they told you, they only shot it a couple of times. It feels loose and you see wear on the slides … You just laugh at the guy and say… HEY, don’t lie to me lie to women… Get it straight …
I’m “digging” the warranty idea to save on costs for inspection/repair. Not unlike a car.
Ammo:
I had a pistol that was brand new from the factory, had a few jams. I used about six different brands of ammo and found one brand of ammo which resulted in reliability. I never realized until then, that some also work best with very particular ammo.
I usually blame a stovepipe on the shooter, but you had so many issues I doubt it’s a grip issue.
Light strike sounds like a firing pin spring issue.
The FTFs, did you notice any indication of a light strike or did the pin fully impact the primer? With a good strike and no boom I’d look at ammo first.
I keep a can of brake free in my range bag. If I have a new or used firearm that does that I take the ammo and mag out then I spray the heck out of it. Wipe down with a rag and fire another mag, or attempt to, downrange. If problem remains, I address the proble with the person/store that sold it to me. If problem goes away I take it home and strip it all the way down and thoroughly clean it and try another day.
The rounds all looked virgin… it was almost like the trigger was dead and disconnected until I racked the slide ejecting the untouched round and reset the striker assembly.
A buddy suggested a full stripping and deep clean / lube, and then to replace the striker assembly if the cleaning didn’t resolve the issue. I was kinda going back and forth on the SIG OEM striker at $70, the OEM “kit” at $100, and then an aftermarket Titanium striker kit at $200… … … but if there is a chance a deep clean and Sig would replace the striker assembly, wouldn’t it be advisable to just let SIG handle all the hassle?
But the follow-up question with sending it off to Sig, would it need to be “transferred” back through an FFL (for $50 transfer and $10 NICS) or would Sig ship it back to my doorstep? IDK how this process would work…
I can’t say the stovepipe wasn’t me… but the light strike and the unstruck rounds was beyond me.
I understand light strikes and my P250 had a huge issue with light strikes until I had ALLLLL the springs replaced. I haven’t had a single issue since the springs were replaced as my Christmas 2023 gift from my wife (along with a new rear Sig night sight and front fiberoptic blade being installed at the same time).
For me, I just go to a buddy of mine at the gun shop. He calls them gets a number I think. Sends it back. They fix it at no cost. They sent it back to him and I pick it up… Look into it. A lot of manufacturers do this… I know rock island does..
It may appear that these companies really stand behind their weapons… Keep in mind if it malfunction and you get injured… They could be held liable… There are a lot of dems just waiting in the jury pool … To make them pay…
$55 for round trip, 2nd day air with adult signature required both ends, shipping back to Sig. “Expected to be under warranty and fully covered unless negligence or normal ware & tear.”
I was emailed a FedEx Shipping Label, and packed it up and sealed it up… but was directed to inform the folks at the FedEx counter that it was a firearm…
At the local FedEx Print & Ship office (hoping for a 45+ yo manager who has done this a dozen times over), I waited my turn patiently and finally walked up to the counter where a younger feller (HOPEFULLY 21-23 yo!!) was training a gentleman probably 5-10 years older than him. I tried to be subtle about the contents, with now 6 other parties standing in line behind me, but the younger guy didn’t get the hint as he’s staring at my carry permit as “photo government ID is required for all shipments” and blurted out for the whole line to hear, “IT’S A FIREARM?!?!” “yes, and again, I’m shipping it back to the manufacturer.”
He then told the trainee, this is one of the few exceptions to [something], then informed/asked me if they could inspect it, “make sure it was ‘empty’.” I unsealed it, and I showed them clear, as the young guy inspected the magazines… not about to hand my firearm over to some random feller at the corner store I don’t know!!!
Half wonder it if would have been easier with the blue-hair … person … at the FedEx counter at the Walgreens…
Was I in the wrong? Would y’all have done anything differently?
It looks like the Fedex clerk’s lack of experience may have been to your advantage. Fedex’s online instructions for shipping a firearm states that customers shipping firearms must be in possession of a FFL and “must enter into an approved FedEx Firearms Shipping Compliance Agreement before shipping any firearms with FedEx.” Sometimes you get lucky.
I can’t find specific instructions online but it looks as if manufacturers may have an arrangement with Fedex that allows customers to ship handguns for repair under their license as a manufacturer.
From AI:
Federal Regulations:
FFL Requirement: The manufacturer or gunsmith you’re sending the firearm to must hold a valid Federal Firearms License (FFL).
Shipping Carrier: You cannot ship a handgun through the USPS without an FFL.
Notification and Labeling: You must notify the carrier that the package contains a firearm, but you cannot mark the outside of the package in any way that indicates it contains a firearm.
Shipping Carrier Policies:
USPS:
Can ship long guns (rifles and shotguns) to a manufacturer/FFL for repair.
Cannot ship handguns without an FFL.
Recommends shipping long guns by registered mail.
UPS:
Can ship both handguns (via Next Day Air) and long guns.
Requires that the shipper have an approved UPS agreement for the transportation of Firearm Products.
FedEx:
Can ship firearms (requires notification and compliance with federal and state laws).
Check FedEx’s website for their specific policies on firearms shipping.
Packaging and Preparation:
Unload the firearm: Ensure the firearm is completely unloaded.
Securely pack the firearm: Wrap the firearm in bubble wrap or other suitable packaging material and place it in a sturdy box.
Consider using a hard case: Shipping in a hard plastic gun case is preferred, if possible, and should be wrapped in cardboard.
Include a letter: Document your name, the firearm’s make, model, and serial number, and a description of the repair needed.
Consider insurance: Insure the firearm for its value during shipping.
Contact the Manufacturer/Gunsmith:
FFL and shipping instructions: Confirm that the manufacturer or gunsmith holds a valid FFL and obtain specific instructions on how to ship the firearm to them.
Return shipping: Discuss how the firearm will be returned to you after repair, and any associated fees.
(love the sound), my buddy and I had a single light strike early on. After about 50-100 rounds, had a stove pipe. Then nearing 200 rounds, had a long series of failure to fire: 1, then a very other round, then a few more - probably 8-10 in total. (Then our time was up shortly thereafter.)
“yes, and again, I’m shipping it back to the manufacturer.”