Minnesota legalizes ghost guns

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Im still pinching myself over this one. Id expect it out of states like TX, etc but MN? Hell has frozen over

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If they find a gun with a serial number can they identify if it was used in a crime? I am not sure what the serial number does.

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It allows for more blame to be placed to push certain agendas!

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I can see why the manufacturer would want a serial number to correct any malfunctions. I was wondering if they can trace a gun like they do on TV by the bullet.

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Yes @Robert1246 they can trace it. If a bullet or a cartridge casing gets recovered at the scene of a crime and somewhere down the line someone gets arrested for possession or use of it during the commission of a crime it can be linked to that gun. Investigative tools have changed a lot in the field of ballistics because now they have computerized ballistics systems.

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If that gun has a serial number and is registered to a person the crime can be linked to the person. In that case the serial number would make sense. Any gun that doesn’t have a serial number would be illegal. Does that make sense?

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I know it is legal in Minnesota. A lot of other states it is illegal. Does that make sense.

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It make sense to me. What makes more sense is to be responsibly armed in case someone shows up with a gun intending to do inhumane things.

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Some States the gun is attached to the owners gun permit and a limit on how many can be on it.

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They probably have to have serial numbers for that.

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Wasn’t their a law at one time where you could manufacture a firearm but can’t be sold or cross state lines? Basically a hobby type of thing.

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Under the 1968 GCA that the left loves to use to restrict firearms.

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@BeanCounter can answer that

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That is one of the most asinine rules for carry and ownership. Who else does it besides CA?

Some states try and hide registry and some just dont give a fug

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Legally, five.

Issuing authority allows only three.

List make, model, caliber, and serial number.

Infringement.

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It was not a question it was a satement I know it to be true I have family and friends in some of the States. But thanks.

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Under the ATF rules, one is “allowed” to manufacture firearms for personal use. There is no federal requirement for a serial number on those firearms. Some states have a requirement for serial numbers on firearms manufactured for personal use. Additionally, the ATF does not ban the sale of a firearm that you manufactured. You just cannot be in the business of manufacturing firearms for sale without a federal license.

This information on what is required/suggested when transferring a firearm in a private transaction: https://www.atf.gov/file/58681/download

Traces do not solve crimes, ATF tracing only finds the original owner of the firearms. When a firearm is traced, the police department contacts the ATF and provides the serial number. The ATF then identifies the manufacturer based on the serial number. The ATF contacts the manufacturer, and the manufacturer provides to the ATF which FFL purchased the firearm. The ATF then goes to that FFL and finds the person that purchased that firearm via the Form 4473.

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Gives you something to identify it by when it gets left in an unlocked car overnight and is stolen. Until the thief files it off (easier said than done on a lot of guns though)

From a manufacturer serial is really important if it ever has a recall or issue, or if you contact manufacturer with questions or send it for repairs etc

Those would seem to be the top reasons people come across by volume I suspect, outside of “because the law says so”

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