Yep, the democrats and RINOs left in this state still want a disarmed population. They never quit, and the blood of those innocent victims is on their hands.
Stupid is as stupid does.
Some republicans didn’t even show up for work at the committee to vote. The quote below is from “Florida Politics” website. It goes on to quote some people against the bill pointing out that college campuses are full of “rampant alcohol and drug use and abuse and sexual assault — and add firearms to the equation,” he said.” Uh, why wouldn’t we want our daughters armed to fend off this “rampant sexual assault?” What’s wrong with these people?
Another quote from the article. Note the last line…
Too many of Fine’s Senate colleagues thought the bill was too drastic a change. Republican Sen. Ileana Garcia joined Democratic Sens. Mack Bernard, Jason Pizzo and Carlos Guillermo Smith in voting “no.”
Republican Sens. Joe Gruters, Clay Yarborough and Jonathan Martin voted “yes.”
Republican Sens. Jennifer Bradley and Corey Simon were absent.
SB 814 lost its House counterpart (HB 31) early this year when Republican sponsor Joel Rudman, a former Navarre Representative who resigned for an unsuccessful run at Congress, withdrew the proposal.
The vote came after the NRA and Florida Smart Justice signaled support for Fine’s measure and roughly a dozen students, including several wearing keffiyehs to signal their support of Palestinians, spoke against it.
…which should have been sufficient reason to vote in favor of the bill, unanimously.
Unfortunately, if I inderstand the Bruen decision correctly, a college campus is allowed to restrict the possession of weapons under the 2d Amendment.
A decision that, no doubt, FSU is taking great pride in adopting at this time. I’m now waiting for the genius’ responsible for this to commandeer at television mike and PROUDLY PROCLAIM,“if it saves ONE LIFE, it will be worth it…”
Funny how it’s never
**“if it costs ONE LIFE, it will not be worth it…”
As Frank 261 says doing the same thing over and over add expecting different results
What these nimrods don’t seem to realize is, these things NEVER save “one life”. They just take DIFFERENT ONES.
Small correction, IIRC Florida is “permitless” carry not constitutional carry.
I have thought the FL schools and campus law was a good choice. With all the shootings in Gainesville, we are fortunate there has not been one at the UF. An open campus, with access by anyone. I am not sure the mentality of students to carry on campus is right. I am glad there was a rapid response by law enforcement at FSU.
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I am not sure about some students’ tendency to binge on alcohol and / or drugs.
The Maturity of each individual matters.
They didn’t allow military to carry on state side posts.
There was a big deal made of this when after the
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I found this subsequent to my retirement, previously this was not the policy when I was on active duty.
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I found the policy of being an off duty individual soldier living on a military base being a GFZ rather incongruent and ridiculous, considering many were armed to the teeth on duty, some with the most powerful and expensive weapons systems in the military.
But, off duty could not carry a Derringer.
Unless deployed overseas in a hostile zone where all carried, whatever 24/7.
The policy change noted is almost a decade old, and indicated that individual services could fine tune it to their own standards.
I will have to see what if any updates there have been to this subsequently.
Another perspective:
What is statutory permission to carry for retired military? | [April Updated]
Point of order, or information: To be retired from the military with benefits and privileges is in the status of an honorable discharge.
Less than honorable discharges do not get retired status, benefits, or privileges.
Some states automatically grant carry permits to honorably discharge military. Which, only requires one enlistment, hitch. One needs enough reenlistments to reach the twenty-year threshold for retirement. I retired after 25-years service.
Not being less than honorably discharged but, rather honorably discharged I am not a prohibited person in my state from being allowed to carry w/, or w/o a permit, open, or concealed anywhere that I have a lawful presence.
Not in a GFZ (unless allowed by permit); not in a stolen vehicle, or while trespassing anywhere.
In my own, home, vehicle, or public while not trespassing I can carry most anywhere not otherwise prohibited.
https://home.army.mil/eisenhower/application/files/1116/0390/8736/FG_Reg_210-13.pdf.pdf
This link’s information indicates that at least on this one Army base that the carrying of firearms by off duty soldiers on a U.S. garrison has evolved from the previous decades old original policy change that allowed previously prohibited firearms carrying.
What other facilities, or services have done in the meantime I don’t yet know, but this indicates the original policy has evolved somewhat, possibly differently depending on jurisdiction specifics.