Hornady Mandates "Vaccine" for Employees

I hadn’t either. But I can’t invent my own data about global, multidisciplinary phenomena. I try to be careful, and to form tentative conclusions. I won’t vouch for them 100% after just a quick look at their underpinnings reveals nothing worrisome. But after a comparable look at The Epoch Times — well, no, they are not at all similar.

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Can anyone explain why it is so important for all the citizens to get the poke, but the illegals allowed to enter the US are not required to get the poke before the government flies or buses them all across the US?

Look at the photo in the link, do you see social distancing, masks, anything like we have been told to do? But the same government that tells us to get the poke allows them to enter. No poke required. Over 2,000 migrants march out of southern city in Mexico (yes, these are not in the US yet, but are on the way.)

This is from October 25, I see one or two people wearing a mask: https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/migrant-caravan-mexico-us-asylum/2021/10/27/id/1042123/

My main issues with the vax mandate is the lies told by the CDC and government, and the total lack of logic as far as the Wuhan Flu protocols.

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Hypocrisy. :thinking:

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I don’t even think they have to comply with the tourist procedures. Like negative test and Vac Card…

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Mandates…i don’t date men, doesn’t apply to me.

Humor aside, i dont tolerate ANY vaccines very well. The last flu shot i took sent me to the ER. Who the F*** are you to tell me i have to risk dying of some injection to protect you?

The jab doesn’t stop you from getting it, it lessens your symptoms. You still spread it. Why should i test weekly for something I’ll know if i have when those who have lessened symptoms don’t have to? It’s hypocrisy and I’m not complying with hypocrisy either.

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Ah, the rabble, deplorables, the opposite of sophisticated, vaccinated crowd.

I can tell you the original Oct 11 letter leaves impression that the company leadership have no other course of action than to submit, and the employees are offered comfortable ways to capitulate, or else face the deadline. There is no loyalty to the employees there, nor understanding that a 2A business is pretty much in the same boat as the fauccination-hesitation folks. Ergo, they don’t deserve my business. Not until they do something a lot more forthcoming, than say “no, no, we didn’t mean to leave your families hungry”. I don’t want the heads to roll (NSBA LOL language?), I want them to retain a legal team to fight the lawless inhumane regulations. Or at least say something against said regulations.

I see the following words, to me this is a veiled threat of termination.

We do not want you or us to be faced with career devastating decisions in the final days before this mandate is in effect.

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It wouldn’t surprise me if the government threatened to take away Hornady’s contract to supply the FBI with 9mm if they didn’t comply.

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I found this surprising. For an ammunition manufacturer to join in with this divisive, illegal, unconstitutional attempt at a “mandate” puzzles me. They could have just as easily laid low and concentrated on business as usual. I don’t see companies in the Lumber industry buying in to this nonsense, Is there a government monetary incentive being offered to companies that comply? It makes me wonder. We just want to get to work and be successful.
The current administration has yet again succeeded in driving a wedge through the population.
Us against them. All the while preaching unity. What a load.

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That’s how I took it. Like I said earlier, I work for a liberal company, and they informed us up front, they will comply with the minimum of whatever comes out of OSHA. If, and when it comes out, and not before that time.

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Sure, that’s how I read it. And, yes, it shows greater loyalty to the corporate institution than to the preferences of however many employees (and potential customers) might think Hornady should take an Alamo stand in support of their individual perceptions of the matter. So a corporation chooses continuity, earnings, employment opportunity, and customer fulfillment more of goods than of ideology. I think it’s a rational choice.

I also think the advance heads-up about possible rough waters ahead is much more employee-centric than remaining quietly head-in-sand until doomsday. And then going cuckoo with press releases and blame while kicking the blocks from under employees who believed their employer would go to the wall for them.

Does Hornady actually have a copy of the Mandate in writing?
Even if a legal mandate does exist, you can slow-roll any response to it until you have it in writing.
When you actually get it in writing, you can give it to your lawyers who can go to court with all sorts of reasons why you can’t enforce it and question the illegality of it!

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Depending on the size of the company, the depth of its coffers, it can have a lot of pull in DC. By comparison, how did the leadership react to “social justice” upheaval, what words did they have for the establishment in the summer of 2020?

Inclusion and Belonging are very important for the well-being of the company and its earnings, aren’t they? Somehow Hornady was open, operating on full speed ahead, workforce didn’t drop from covid like flies. Suddenly, they want to un-include and dis-belong employees to serve administration with edicts limited in scope to 3 years. This is short-sighted beyond description and now a PR nighmare. Employment opportunity? You are kidding, the CEO could have as well come out in blackface or dressed as Hitler for Halloween party.

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It’s also called “Gaslighting”. Plenty of that going around these days. All in the name of “SCIENCE”.

Stay safe.

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Mr. Hornady sent out a clarification letter shortly there after. He specifically stated that there was no mandate and that his original letter was misinterpreted. He stated that the vaccine would be available to those who wished it at their annual wellness screening but was in no way mandating it.

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He was testing the waters in my opinion. Backlash caused his course change. Good.

Stay safe.

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Frank73, I am reporting what I read. I have seen both letters. I will refrain from trying to second guess his motives and give him the benefit of the doubt with the lack of further information.

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Frank73, I know the man casually. I have always found hime to be an honorable man with the highest integrity and with the well being of his employees at the top of his priority list for his company. That is why he has such a high retention rate of staff compared to other large companies. It is a superior company and one that his community can be proud of.

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Works well enough on many people

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That just sucks.
Where’s the backbone in these employers these days?
Sad

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why would employees be faced with career devastating decisions then.

We do not want you or us to be faced with career devastating decisions in the final days before this mandate is in effect.

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